The term crutch seems used and abused when it comes to game mechanics that people dont like.
- (insert name) ability is a crutch.
Common uses...
You wouldnt have won if you didnt use fear. Fear is such a crutch.
You wouldnt have won if you werent stealthed. Stealth is such a crutch.
I think its to the point that if you have an ability that someone considers overpowered, its a crutch. I tend to define a class by its advantages and weaknesses. So my definition of a stealth class is that stealth should be a crutch. A stealther should be at optimum potential when he is stealthed and gets the opener. A stealther should be weakened if he is attacked first, thus defining the class based upon its weaknesses.
I guess what im getting at is why do people say " thats such a crutch " with so much disdain? Is it simply a specific ability that annoys them or do they dislike classes having weaknesses and having the need to rely on specific abilities?
User Comments
I am guessing people do because "Stealth" and stealthers are a very distinct and standout style compared to other things like for example your other example "Fear" or "Crowd Control mechanics". I don't think CC is a crutch style though. Any class can have abilities that follow CC mechanics, even stealthers.
Let me also add stealth is viable, but it depends on the game and how it's implemented.
Laziness is the main reason people whine about such things, and it is a laziness we ALL have within ourselves. Because stealth and fear is really hard work to maintain a defence against at all times. When you are casual farming stuff in a zone as a hunter in WoW for an example, the flare ain't what you fires evry XX second to prevent a rouge to sneak up on you and kill you.
Other things that makes it fell "unfair" and a "Crutch?!?!" is that if you do not work your lazy ass off the person having stealth is also lazy and sneaks up on the unwary victim who probably is in a relaxed fun playing mood and going from that state to I will see ya every move and move you down dude is almost impossable. The lazy stealthed guy on the other hand all he gotta do is kick in his attacks as fast as he can because he is already prepared for the attack.
In PvP I see stealth as a part of the game and I suspect any good players wold never say anything about that, except "fear" wich when it kicks in only make you feel like there really isn't anything you can do right there and then to outwit the "caster-of-the-fear". Only before battle in battle preparations, getting imunity against it. wich makes it a crutch in 2 ways a crutch for the caster when it resists and one crutch up-where-sun-do-not-shine for the reciever.
GOD plate armor is such a crutch!
i would have won if you had cloth armor, and your gear wasn't epic, purple gear is a crutch too!!
maybe every class should have the same weapons and abilites, just under different names, and every peice of gear has the same stats so every one is equal so there is no crutch involved?
This is primarily in reference to WAR. Thankfully all of us lazy asses won't have to deal with the l337 stealth crowd that pats themselves on the back and get hot and bothered on WTFPWNing n00bs that dare think invisibility in PVP is lame. Say what you want. I really don't care. Have fun playing some OTHER game.
To say "if you didn't have ___ you wouldn't have won" is false logic. Theoriectically you could use that argument on aynone about any ability.
It is just immarturity from the person that lost.
Kor
Andyman
If my opinion these two are on the right track. If you have one good leg and one bad leg, you require an aid to walk, that would be called a crutch. The reason why a warrior is the tank is because he is in plate armor, like Kor said. If you put the warrior in cloth...
I believe people use the word crutch completely wrong. The idea is your class is supposed to be build to rely on things. Plate armor is supposed to be a crutch to the tank. If not, he could simply tank in cloth. Now we are back to the immaturity andyman mentions. Yea, people hate to lose, so they call that <insert power here> ability here a crutch.
Dreadlich -
Now we have the common anti stealth poster like Dread. He hates stealth so much due to (i assume)poor implementation in other games, that he believes WAR shouldnt even try to have stealth. If we ignored ideas due to poor implementation in other games, then we wouldnt even have a game left...
WAR doesn't have it because mystical invisible stealth doesn't exist in it's IP. This stealth debate has been going as long as it's been in MMOs. It's not going to be settled here. I'm just overjoyed that there will finally be a pvp game that doesn't include "stealth".
I'm sorry ONE game excluding this "poor implementation" upsets you so much. Please pick ANY of the other MMOs to go get your ganking on and stop whining about it not being in a game that has exsisted for almost 25 years without it and has thankfully chosen to not include it just for its MMO incarnation.
This is where I disagree with ya Dread. You say ONE game excluding this, yea, one game out of how many PvP games. There still isnt a real PvP game and I hop WAR will be one. So no, I dont have other options. WoW, EQ2, DAoC, etc, are all PvE games in my opinion. The only kinda PvP game is Guildwars, and guess what, it doesnt have stealth...
AOC has stealth. If you want to play WAR, it's going to be without stealth. Unless EA/Mythic just gives GW the finger and somehow takes over the IP (never happen obviousely).
Ive seen a lot of postings on the stealth topic. Ive seen some mythic postings about possible camo and the ability to hide in the environment. This would make me happy. I always hated how in WoW, you had a big neon sign over your head with your name on it. Anything they add that can be used as a method to sneak up on someone, well that works for me.
t0nyd some times i forget sacrasm doesnt always come out well through text hehe.
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