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Enigma 10/31/06 7:01:51 PM
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Today I bought Battlefield 2142 since I was an avid fan of BF2 and the earlier BF 1942.
However, like an idiot, i never bothered to do any research on the game before shelling out 54 bucks (tax included) only to open the box and see a big, fat, adware notice accompanied with the instructional manual. EA has partnered with a spyware site and when you open the security seal (hence cannot return it) it says you have to agree to these terms or you cannot install the game. VERY shadey business practices. So, do you think EA will pull the same devious, ugly stunt to WAR as they did with BF2142? Remember Dice made BF2142 but EA still were the ones responsible for the adware. You think EA will have Mythic do the same? |
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Sramota 10/31/06 7:27:11 PM
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NOPE! Mythic is still independent and according to them, EA has NO say whatsoever in the case of WAR, |
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starman999 10/31/06 7:35:44 PM
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Joined: 8/02/03
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I have been playing BF2142 for a while now....... I havent noticed anything sketchy other than the normal instabilities that plagued BF2. The game is good as first person shooters go but nothing to write home about. I really wish someone would incorporate the setting into a continuous storyline and make an RPG out of it. As far as adware I havent had a problem with any of it. |
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checkthis500 10/31/06 11:24:00 PM
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I was under the impression that there were ads in the game, not adware.... And to the guy that said that Mythic is independent, they were bought by EA. They're now EA Mythic. They're EA's mmorpg branch now. |
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Volkmar 11/01/06 6:08:16 AM
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Yes, there ads in the game, but how those ads are determined? Cause everybody see different ones. The program included go sniffing searching for what sites you visit and how you use internet in general to give you "customer-tailored" ads in the game. So a car fan will see car ads, while a corp drone will see stock ads or office products and so on. I'm not much against the concept of having a program like that, it is all anonymous and it doesn't transfer any info to anybody else. Most FPS use much more intrusive cheat-detecting programs anyway. What bugs me is that you pay full price for a game AND IT COMES WITH ADS IN IT!!! In my opinion, if you make people pay for the full box, no ads should be included unless there are secondary high costs involved (like EA is hosting the servers where you play on, Sadly i do not know if that is the case, but i doubt). If you put Ads in your game, then cut the box price or even better make 2 versions, one adfull at 30 $ and one ad-free at 50.
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Kunou 11/01/06 11:02:46 AM
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MMORPG.com Community Manager
Joined: 9/28/03
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Enigma my man, I would have expected so much more from you of all people... :( A little research would have turned up this response, which I posted on no less than 6 different message boards, including these I'm fairly sure, a couple weeks back when all this first broke loose: There are no plans to put advertising in Warhammer Online, Dark Age of Camelot or Ultima Online. EA reviews the appropriateness of in-game advertising on a case-by-case basis. We would only put ads in a game where is makes sense inside the fiction and enhances the fantasy experience. And then there was this explanaition taken directly from the Dice/2142 website which I posted on all those same sites:Posting on behalf of the Dev Team Which explains that it does NOT go through your surfing habits or other private information but is instead simply there for region determination and to gather impression data etc.-------------------------------- Greetings, We would like to provide more information on in-game advertising in Battlefield 2142. To try and help everyone better understand it, here is how it works. The in- game advertisement is respectful of players' privacy: it never accesses files not directly related to the game, and it does not capture personal data such as cookies, account login detail, gameplay behaviour or surfing history. As it is an integrated part of Battlefield 2142 and not a separate program, it only runs when the game is running. Because BF2142 delivers ads by region, the IP address of the player is used to determine the region of the player and helps serve ads by region and language; for instance, a player in Paris will be presented with ads in French. Note that this IP address is not stored on the advertisement server and is not repurposed for other uses. A unique ID number is anonymously assigned the first time the player joins a Battlefield 2142 online game. It is stored locally on the PC but is not linked to any personal details. The in-game advertisement gathers what we call “impression data”, such as location of the billboard in the game or duration of advertisement impression. It helps see how many people have seen an ad – but not who has seen it. We are also conscious that the advertisement shouldn’t distract the player from the overall gaming experience, so all ads fit in the unique environment of each level in the game. The content of the ads is also controlled to ensure that no offensive content is displayed in Battlefield 2142. We all hope that this explanation will address recent concerns on the advertisement in Battlefield 2142. See you on the Battlefield. Your Dice Live Team If I didn't know you better and know you're not that type of person I'd almost call this a troll post. ;) |
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whpsh 11/01/06 11:52:06 PM
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I almost bought BG2142 but got lucky and found all the warning sites (ironically the day after I went to get it, it just wasn't in stock ... whew).
I read somewhere (sorry for not posting the interview ... am looking for it now) in an interview with the ad/spyware makers that, among other factors, it took into acount the region I was in and my age. How does it get this kind of information? And even if it doesn't do anything on or to my computer, I really don't like being watched, even in a game. And recording what I choose to look at is ... well ... spying. Spying + Software = Spyware, yes? Why on earth would I let anyone record what I was doing in game? I wouldn't be happy with a marketing intern sitting on the back of my motorcycle, recording everywhere I go, what things I buy or consider buying, and other unknown "variables". And having it fall out of the box in a leaflet ... just bad. REAL bad. And I was really excited about BF2142. I think some appropriate political quotes are applicable. There's more, for sure, but these will do. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." - Pres. Clinton "I am not a crook." - Pres. Nixon "I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." - VP Cheney - June 05 |
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logangregor 11/02/06 1:08:59 AM
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