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Originally posted by Vhayne

  I'm not sure why mmorpg.com hasn't put this game on their list yet. 

Yes, I know, GW and PSU probably fail as well, but I think they got on the site before the above rule was established (in fact, they were probably the reason the rule was created) so they get to stay.

its hard not to compare an action rpg to another action rpg. even more so when they are from the mind of the same person (bill roper).

they are a lot alike (diablo and hellgate london). demons, check. action rpg, check. massive library of randomized gear, check.

but thats about it.

graphics aside. there are very view common features among the two games.

It would be like comparing never winter nights (with its small online capabilities) to guild wars (with its brouder more massive online capabilities).

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by Vhayne

  I'm not sure why mmorpg.com hasn't put this game on their list yet. 

Well, if I had to guess, it fails this test: "500 or more simultaneous players in one world."

 

Yes, I know, GW and PSU probably fail as well, but I think they got on the site before the above rule was established (in fact, they were probably the reason the rule was created) so they get to stay.

500 or more players in one world...

as in, one server, or one zone.  there is a difference.

most MMOs do not have more than 500 people in one zone. Nor could their servers handle it if it happened. Only a handful of MMOs such as WoW have a "seamless" world where loading new zones happens behind the scenes. And only a game like EvE has been challenged to have a single zone accommodate 500+ players.

In the end, if this site requires 500 people in 1 server, then HGL passes.  If it requires 500 people in a single zone, than half the games on this site would fail.

guild wars and hellgate shouldnt be here.

Whether it's listed here or not, I'll be playing it.

The real nextgen in online RPGs is a game that is actually fun and not a boring: walk, search for group, or push button to craft fest.  Actual game play in a game, very innovative.   (And yes I was making fun of WoW)

Personally I agree that if Guildwars and Dungeon Runners is listed on here then there really isn't a reason why not to list HG:L.  

I just dumped my Fury and Tabula Rasa preorders for HG:L. 

Originally posted by neuronomad

Personally I agree that if Guildwars and Dungeon Runners is listed on here then there really isn't a reason why not to list HG:L.  

I just dumped my Fury and Tabula Rasa preorders for HG:L. 

 

 

Greetings
And here i think you nail the proplem that there is with the definations that keeps HG:L out. There is really alot off people looking for multiplayer online games, comparing different ones on this site, that actual could enjoy having HG:L in the list. its the "massive" part of MMORPG that is creating the trouble! 

i don't think the 500 players in one grafical area qualify as a very good way to seperate what is "massive". Simply because most MMORPGs is outright not playable if that many players comes together! And keeping games out because developers have taken responsibility for that, and set boundries to keep performance high, does not make sense to me. Especial if these game in alot of other ways cowers the aspect of being "Massive". As HG:L does, as Guild WARS does. 

I personal feels this site lacks quality by not having HGL in. And if Guild Wars was not here as an exsample of that not all MORPG has to be with a monthly fee, then this site again would lack alot imho.

i think this is a case where the sites admins could look at if the rules serves the site! I personally would like to know if the admins think the rule is fine or think thats "its the least bad rule " that we could come up with. Because there is so many people that want's HG:L in here, and if its just because 1 rule that arguable not serves its purpose in the best way, then change the rule!

with regards Jondifool

 (edited some spelling mistakes)

if its not an mmorpg why is it that almost all the other major mmo sites have Hellgate listed. hmm

Here's the official answer from Community Manager.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/1606401#1606401

Yo guys!  After consideration, we do not believe that Hellgate: London meets our requirements as an MMORPG.  While it is online, it is not a massively multiplayer online game.  For more information, please check out our list on what qualifies a game as an MMORPG.

Laura "Taera" Genender
Community Manager
MMORPG.com