Star Wars Galaxies

Originally posted by saay

 

Lots of people were very happy with the return of pets and BM, - they only broke the system at the NGE, regardless the new system is pretty damn good aside from pet levels 75-90 the whole system is well done.

And this barely lied stuff.  Is that anything like a little bit pregnant?  I don't know about you but where I come from barely lied is just plain lying, period.  

Sheesh, it's hilarious sitting here watching you the self appointed current player who feels he must go through every post and come up with some kind of counter argument.  Don't get me wrong I can respect that, but it's still funny to see and frankly a waste of time imho.

Originally posted by saay

 

Originally posted by CasualMaker

Beast Master was a horrible fiasco because it was totally unnecessary. The devs broke a working pet system rather than restore the skill mods needed to reactivate it.

copy of WoW, not really lol, do you even know what it entails? Entertainers and Crafters are Cl90 now anyway - what existed in the wake of the NGE wasnt a pet system - it was the bare remains of one.

 

Lots of people were very happy with the return of pets and BM, - they only broke the system at the NGE, regardless the new system is pretty damn good aside from pet levels 75-90 the whole system is well done.

Well most of my time in SWG was as a Bio Engineer and a CH.

So I'm going to disagree with you on the "most people are happy" and the "well done" part.

People who like pets were happy to have the ability to use pets... but that doesn't mean being happy with the system or how it was implemented.

The implemntation of the BM system was Horrid..  I had tons of resources from my time in game.  So I was easily able to set up a lab and make pets.  I sold pets for ungodly sums of money.. quality combat pets and that was under pricing the really absurd people.

However, I am also able to realize.. that many people who play the game currently never had access to the amount of resources I did.

The cost of the BM system when it started (for most people) was beyond horrid.. it was stupid.

As I said it didn't affect me because other than Geo Thermal I had houses full of resources. Geo was easy to get.

That doesn't mean it didn't affect many others.

The actual pet side.. is a fairly weak system as well.

However, as compared to the rest of the NGE...

Sure BM was a stellar system.. and in that sense I could agree with you that it was "well done".  But only in comparison to the rest of the NGE...

Compared to the old pet system.. it was.. and still is... crap.

*closer*

Perhaps the person that mentioned WoW and BM from the hunter tree... was thinking that due to pet loyalty.  In many ways that was something stolen from the UO pet system... or what it evolved into.

That system certainly predates the BM in WoW.. since I last played that game in 2002.

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by rejad

 

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Originally posted by saay

 

 

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Originally posted by rejad

 

If you think Heroic Encounters are not ripped off of WoW then you've obviously never played WoW raids.
And collections are suppose to be "done as you go?" ROFL!!! In what context does a level 90 player EVER have in the NGE game to EVER kill 500 squills? For RP purposes? What purpose does any player of any level ever have to go to Ft Tuskan now outside of looting a Tuskan outfit and maybe a couple of color crystals (so common they go for 5k now). You get better XP grinding Legacy and terminals, and by the time Legacy dries up you're already too high in level to get anything from ever killing another Tuskan outside the ones in the instance.

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I didnt mean you are going to get every single of the 100s of collections by leveling to 90, but the xp sure helps, many of the clickly collections you can do as you go along. Things like rancors and krayts killed lots of before the collections, so they come as you go along. You migh kill 500 squills over your time leveling and helping otehr to level. Sometimes people go leveling the tusken fort, its quite cool there.

About the encounters, im not saying there isnt something similar in WoW, but its hardly an original or unique idea - its just high end content.
And to the guy that said theres been no new content aside from chap 7 and 8, what about BM (its a completely different system to CH, a bit more complicated etc), expertise (yes, thats content, more skills, new animations etc), GCW rewards, Imp and reb theme park revamps, other leveling stuff, azure cabal etc. Even so, regardless of all this stuff, what does it matter if they are adding in content from now on - and no it wont be just more instances and collections, although they will add a few each chapter - they said they want to do to DWB-esque stuff etc, so its all good.

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1. Besides rancors and krayts, what does a level 90 normally hunt? NOTHING. Why do I know this? Because before colletions there wasn't anyone anywhere killing anything else. The only reason anyone is out there killing things squills and chubas and tuskans now is for collections and collections alone. Even players who are leveling aren't killing these things. No matter what you say or make yourself believe, these quests are indeed grinds. Players leveling do grind on them sometimes, especially as they give good xp, there are quite a few other creatures lvl 90 players kill as well. Regardless, call this a grind if you must but i prefer not to be just handed rewards and titles, i like to earn them

 

2. Nobody goes to Ft Tuskan that isn't after a collection or a location badge. Occasionally some early preCU vet does but usually ends up depressed and posting here for the experience of it. Newbies do go there to explore actually.

3. "Not saying it isn't simmilar to WoW?" BS, its EXACTLY what WoW has, only in that game you aren't shuttled directly to the end boss, you have to also go through a dungeon to get there.shuttled directly to the end boss in swg? where did you come up with that?

You know what, dude? This is nonsense. You want people to play the game you love? Stop pimping the hand-me-down features that the devs have been putting in recently and start helping those who are rallying for real change in the NGE. Give me greater choice through the Expertise system, fix group XP, make the GCW meaningful and not just another lame grind, make crafters worthwhile again, make Entertainers worth something again, slow down combat, and bring back MORE (I know there is some but I want MORE) animation, then we can talk about me resubbing the account I canceled two months ago.

And as far as "the game keeps getting better," its not. Not anymore. All they're adding in from now on is more Collections and Instances. I seriously hope you enjoy them, because that's all they said they're putting in from now on.Incorrect, they said they would not be doing that, they said they will add in a few each chapter but they want to focus on other things.

 

And you actually believe that they r doing other things?  You must be lost when thinking of which company you are sticking up for.

We had been blatently lied to for so long and over so many things that anything that soe says doesnt hold its weight in crap.

Do I miss the old game? Hell yes i do.

But seriously...dont believe anything that soe tells you cause really only 40% is ever true.

 

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Originally posted by solusbelator

 

 

Originally posted by saay

 

Lots of people were very happy with the return of pets and BM, - they only broke the system at the NGE, regardless the new system is pretty damn good aside from pet levels 75-90 the whole system is well done.

Only?  They ONLY broke the system.  These SOE Asshats took and took and took and took some more.  When are they going to get a clue and quit taking things without nothing in return?  It is absolutely asinine how you can sit there and talk about these guys so nonchalantly.

 

 

And this barely lied stuff.  Is that anything like a little bit pregnant?  I don't know about you but where I come from barely lied is just plain lying, period.  

Sheesh, it's hilarious sitting here watching you the self appointed current player who feels he must go through every post and come up with some kind of counter argument.  Don't get me wrong I can respect that, but it's still funny to see and frankly a waste of time imho.

 

What barely lied stuff?

I counter arguments that lie and that i disagree with, the discussion is stimulating in the instances where we can hold a coherent discussion, otherwise i correct the vets who may get things a bit wrong, not actually playing the game and all.

isn't this forum supposed to be free of fanboi trolling?

the fanbois want your money back in $OE's pockets which isn't going to happen not with me at least....

Originally posted by Arll_Bebakk

isn't this forum supposed to be free of fanboi trolling?

The NGE fanboys have decided to invade the vet forum to convince us to come back. You see the game is in a bit of a mess these days and most of the servers are empty. They have realized that new people aren't coming in so as a last ditch measure they are trying to get the vets back.