WAR (Warhammer Online)

Because Guild vs Guild is elitism...its only for guilds..it leaves out everyone else, small guilds, or small clans. RvR is your whole race..your entire realm fighting for something...does that mean they all get along no? Does it mean they won't race to own a keep on a constant basis? No..but it does mean that those guilds will fight together to ensure that guilds from another realm don't take take things.  RvR is a way to get the whole server working for common goals even if they aren't necessarily 'grouped' together.

The whole point to this game is a giant WAR ... you can't have a war if everyone is playign economy landlord...while I understand people like that sort of thing..there are already tons of games that offer that sort of game play.   There are not how ever alot of RvR games, its time there's a new one on the market. 

Originally posted by elvenangel

Because Guild vs Guild is elitism...its only for guilds..it leaves out everyone else, small guilds, or small clans. RvR is your whole race..your entire realm fighting for something...does that mean they all get along no? Does it mean they won't race to own a keep on a constant basis? No..but it does mean that those guilds will fight together to ensure that guilds from another realm don't take take things.  RvR is a way to get the whole server working for common goals even if they aren't necessarily 'grouped' together.

The whole point to this game is a giant WAR ... you can't have a war if everyone is playign economy landlord...while I understand people like that sort of thing..there are already tons of games that offer that sort of game play.   There are not how ever alot of RvR games, its time there's a new one on the market. 

The elitism thing is applied in the games I listed and honestly i really meant more like 10six. Everyone had bases and bases made you money. It was four factions at war and since you designed your own base there was only good players and bad players. You kept what you killed, until somone kills you.

I will try it but like I said as of now I just dont get it......

Originally posted by MarL

 

 

Originally posted by elvenangel

Because Guild vs Guild is elitism...its only for guilds..it leaves out everyone else, small guilds, or small clans. RvR is your whole race..your entire realm fighting for something...does that mean they all get along no? Does it mean they won't race to own a keep on a constant basis? No..but it does mean that those guilds will fight together to ensure that guilds from another realm don't take take things.  RvR is a way to get the whole server working for common goals even if they aren't necessarily 'grouped' together.

The whole point to this game is a giant WAR ... you can't have a war if everyone is playign economy landlord...while I understand people like that sort of thing..there are already tons of games that offer that sort of game play.   There are not how ever alot of RvR games, its time there's a new one on the market. 

I get what your saying, but since I haven't played daoc I just dont get why I would try really hard to fight for my realm? It sounds like a really big alteric valley? The reason I did not play POTBS is because the game was built around taking over the towns, but I just didnt see the point in all that effort for my faction.

 

 

The elitism thing is applied in the games I listed and honestly i really meant more like 10six. Everyone had bases and bases made you money. It was four factions at war and since you designed your own base there was only good players and bad players. You kept what you killed, until somone kills you.

 

I will try it but like I said as of now I just dont get it......

It's ok MarL, people will play RvR for three reasons.

1) They love to siege or love to be part of huge battles.

2) They have a sense of realm pride (which is what you're missing, but that's totally fine. Just the feeling of having a whole nation and race you're fighting for is something that varies between people. Some could care less, others love to fight and die for it.)

3) Just the actual player vs. player aspect of it.

There's very little that will keep me from wanting to play this game. 

Why I wont play it.

-I don't like the dwarf or human character art. 

-The armor seen so far looks to be the same stuff for everyone in the same class.  I don't see much variation in looks in armor. 

-It seems to have a very similar combat style to WoW. 

-PvE probably sucks.

Why I will Play it

-I'm a fanboy of MMO PvP that gives me choices, and gets me in the action as soon as possible.  One of the best things in DAOC were the lvl 20 battlegrounds. (Plus the creation of lvl 20 characters if you had a max lvl character)

Warhammer lets me start PvP at lvl 5.  75% of the gameplay is all about PvP.  If want to try out a new class I can see what it is like starting at low lvl in PvP.  I don't have to grind PvE crap to reach max lvl just to see if my class is any fun in PvP.

-Epic goals that range from zone buffs to capital cities.

-I love the green skins way too much.  All the races have serious attitude.

-Collission boxes.  No more rogues running through people for backstabs.

-No predator cloaking field stealth.  I hated seeing rogues go invisible in an open field with an absolute passion.  That is not seeking.  that is just a skilless first attack.

-Squig hunters.  I love multi pet classes.

Originally posted by Urrelles

There's very little that will keep me from wanting to play this game. 

Why I wont play it.

-I don't like the dwarf or human character art. 

-The armor seen so far looks to be the same stuff for everyone in the same class.  I don't see much variation in looks in armor. 

-It seems to have a very similar combat style to WoW. 

-PvE probably sucks.

Why I will Play it

-I'm a fanboy of MMO PvP that gives me choices, and gets me in the action as soon as possible.  One of the best things in DAOC were the lvl 20 battlegrounds. (Plus the creation of lvl 20 characters if you had a max lvl character)

Warhammer lets me start PvP at lvl 5.  75% of the gameplay is all about PvP.  If want to try out a new class I can see what it is like starting at low lvl in PvP.  I don't have to grind PvE crap to reach max lvl just to see if my class is any fun in PvP.

-Epic goals that range from zone buffs to capital cities.

-I love the green skins way too much.  All the races have serious attitude.

-Collission boxes.  No more rogues running through people for backstabs.

-No predator cloaking field stealth.  I hated seeing rogues go invisible in an open field with an absolute passion.  That is not seeking.  that is just a skilless first attack.

-Squig hunters.  I love multi pet classes.

 Combat seems more like Daoc to me so far.

I'm afraid you're a little behind the times on this one.

Also not quite sure what you mean by multi pet class but a squig herder doesn't get to use more than 1 squig at a time apparently

I'm not sure if I'm going to play Warhammer for the simple fact I'm tired of looking forward to it and seeing it pushed back.  While I understand and respect the devs trying to release a quality and complete product I start to wonder if this game will EVER be good enough to launch.  An old saying my grandfather used to say sums it up best: "SH*T or get off the crapper"

I signed this thread but it got burried somwhere among the posts.

Oriignally I intended on playing AoC and not touching WAR, one game as I have limited time.

Let us jsut say that after gathering more data on both options I am retracting my statement and if time permits I will try WAR.

Originally posted by Illyrian

I signed this thread but it got burried somwhere among the posts.

Oriignally I intended on playing AoC and not touching WAR, one game as I have limited time.

Let us jsut say that after gathering more data on both options I am retracting my statement and if time permits I will try WAR.

You shouldn't cast off any game because you like another.  You should hope for the success of all games so you always have choices.

Sorry for my previous statements also in this thread.  I had just seen a video and screenshots of WAR where the UI Health/Stamina and other aspects looked exactly like WoW and it made me kind of worried about how much they were trying to appeal to the playerbase.  Arkane has straightened me out and of course i'll be playing WAR.  My issue still stands though for any game that if is dumbed down to the level of WoW I wouldn't play longer than a month.  I have however, done a lot more research and have realized that there is a lot more complexity then I had previous given this game credit for.  My earlier post in the thread was uneducated and that's my bad.  This thread should be dead though...  I'm not the one that rez'd it!