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xaldraxius  5/09/08 6:20:34 PM

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Originally posted by Digna

Equipment is supposed to be stripped. You get a loincloth and lots of cash to buy but nothing of the 1-13 levels (if you got that high) is supposed to go with the characters once they get the boost to 20.

Right right, I'm just saying that I hope we have a chance to buy equipment once we level up, before they make it full on PvP, otherwise you are going to get killed while you're shopping.

Also I read somewhere that they were going to transport our characters to their respective home lands. Anyone that can confirm or deny this? 

Oyjord  5/09/08 6:26:38 PM

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Originally posted by soco

Hopefully this will address the following PVP issues:

 

Right now pvp is kinda [MOD EDIT]If you can't hide, you are basically bait for someone that can hide or you're just an idiot looking to get [MOD EDIT].  So far I would say the best class for PVP is ranger.   The reason being is because it can deal out shitloads of damage from long range and still has the ability to do it with stealth.  You can't beat the stun shot from stealth mode either. They also get medium armor and great HP/Stamina.

Assasin is probably second and Barbarian third.  I haven't played either but from what I can see on the battlefield is how I rate them. They are both good DD's in PVP.

Soldiers pretty much suck, but they can at least take some hits.  Conqueror (with the best DPS) can do some damage but all in all the tank class is a joke right now with the level cap at 13.  They aren't even worth killing if there are other classes around.  That's how pathetic they are.

If you play a mage class you will get owned.  Plain and simple.  Regardless if you are ToS you are going to get singled out and you will go down quick.  For the people reading this that disagree with me, you are playing with noobs.  (As a ranger) I can two time a mage class.  Healing is crap.  It does not do nearly enough for the amount of damage dished out at this level.

I can't speak for Herald of Xotli or Demonologist since I don't play them, but what I can say from what I see is that they are "ok" but Demonologist seems to be better, maybe even 4th on the list.

Necromancer = the suck.  Their pets do minimal damage and they have low HP so they can't take much damage.  A decent thing about them is they can hide.  I can, however, see this class being awesome later.  Also, their pets aren't half bad at keeping others from hiding because of the constant damage they do.

Lastly, CTF is redundant.  Most people that do CTF don't even give a shit about the flag.  There is rarely any team work involved and it's just a gank fest with the rogue classes waiting on someone to grab the flag and stab them in the back when they are going back to their base. 

One might also say team annihilation is a gank fest too but at least people attempt to knock out the others totem (usually) which can require teamwork.

I'm now a little stupider having read this post.

 
mackdawg19  5/09/08 6:30:07 PM

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Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

Originally posted by Digna

Equipment is supposed to be stripped. You get a loincloth and lots of cash to buy but nothing of the 1-13 levels (if you got that high) is supposed to go with the characters once they get the boost to 20.

Right right, I'm just saying that I hope we have a chance to buy equipment once we level up, before they make it full on PvP, otherwise you are going to get killed while you're shopping.

 

Also I read somewhere that they were going to transport our characters to their respective home lands. Anyone that can confirm or deny this? 

Read the patch notes screen, everything is explained there.  Since you buy armor in the cites and you cannot pvp in the cities, you should be fine when servers come up on the 10th. The patch tonite is not the pvp mayhem/end of beta thing. As stated, that starts on the 10th, which in the US is tomorrow.

 
xaldraxius  5/09/08 6:36:16 PM

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Originally posted by mackdawg19

 

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

Originally posted by Digna

Equipment is supposed to be stripped. You get a loincloth and lots of cash to buy but nothing of the 1-13 levels (if you got that high) is supposed to go with the characters once they get the boost to 20.

Right right, I'm just saying that I hope we have a chance to buy equipment once we level up, before they make it full on PvP, otherwise you are going to get killed while you're shopping.

 

Also I read somewhere that they were going to transport our characters to their respective home lands. Anyone that can confirm or deny this? 

 

Read the patch notes screen, everything is explained there.  Since you buy armor in the cites and you cannot pvp in the cities, you should be fine when servers come up on the 10th. The patch tonite is not the pvp mayhem/end of beta thing. As stated, that starts on the 10th, which in the US is tomorrow.

Ah, thanks a bunch.  Where the heck are the patch notes? It won't let me into the Beta Forums....

soco  5/09/08 7:13:21 PM

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Originally posted by kazson
Originally posted by soco
Originally posted by virtuella
Originally posted by soco

If you play a mage class you will get owned.  Plain and simple. 


Someone forgot to tell that to my demonologist and my 2 team demos

 

And you no doubt spawn camped them or played against noobs (read my post).  CTF is bullshit.  You can't use that for any comparison.  Your squad would get smoked in team annihilation.

 

 EDIT: Just noticed you got a level 10 demo with 10 kills.... come on dude.. that shit makes it way too obvious what happened in that match.  Pretty much any lvl 13 that attacks a lvl 10 is going to get fucked up. Level gap is a huge factor in their damage calculations.

 

 

 


makes zero difference...everyone is 19 the only difference is spells/combos and items...period

I don't believe that.  I one timed either a guardian or a dt that had (6) next to his name in team annihilation.

But let's say you are right....lol.. so 3 things that are completely irrelevant.  Appreciate the good humor.

 

 

 

 

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soco  5/09/08 7:15:26 PM

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Originally posted by neilh73

 

Soco, a little tip mate. 

If you roll a Ranger on the PvP server when the game goes live you are in for a very rude awakening.  Its one of the worst PvP classes.  Also, you said mage classes will get owned, well you are in for another shock there, Demonologist is the most overpowered class in the game by a country mile.

Sorry, I cant go into specifics, but as you know NDA is still in effect for closed beta.

 

 

Thanks for the heads up but as you see I am only stating what happens during OB -> lvl 13.  I am still undecided what class to roll first.

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soco  5/09/08 7:20:46 PM

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Originally posted by Oyjord
Originally posted by soco

Hopefully this will address the following PVP issues:

 

Right now pvp is kinda [MOD EDIT]If you can't hide, you are basically bait for someone that can hide or you're just an idiot looking to get [MOD EDIT].  So far I would say the best class for PVP is ranger.   The reason being is because it can deal out shitloads of damage from long range and still has the ability to do it with stealth.  You can't beat the stun shot from stealth mode either. They also get medium armor and great HP/Stamina.

Assasin is probably second and Barbarian third.  I haven't played either but from what I can see on the battlefield is how I rate them. They are both good DD's in PVP.

Soldiers pretty much suck, but they can at least take some hits.  Conqueror (with the best DPS) can do some damage but all in all the tank class is a joke right now with the level cap at 13.  They aren't even worth killing if there are other classes around.  That's how pathetic they are.

If you play a mage class you will get owned.  Plain and simple.  Regardless if you are ToS you are going to get singled out and you will go down quick.  For the people reading this that disagree with me, you are playing with noobs.  (As a ranger) I can two time a mage class.  Healing is crap.  It does not do nearly enough for the amount of damage dished out at this level.

I can't speak for Herald of Xotli or Demonologist since I don't play them, but what I can say from what I see is that they are "ok" but Demonologist seems to be better, maybe even 4th on the list.

Necromancer = the suck.  Their pets do minimal damage and they have low HP so they can't take much damage.  A decent thing about them is they can hide.  I can, however, see this class being awesome later.  Also, their pets aren't half bad at keeping others from hiding because of the constant damage they do.

Lastly, CTF is redundant.  Most people that do CTF don't even give a shit about the flag.  There is rarely any team work involved and it's just a gank fest with the rogue classes waiting on someone to grab the flag and stab them in the back when they are going back to their base. 

One might also say team annihilation is a gank fest too but at least people attempt to knock out the others totem (usually) which can require teamwork.

I'm now a little stupider having read this post.

Actually, if you already knew all that, then that wouldn't make you stupid, it wouldn't have changed anything.  And if you didn't know that, then you gained knowledge.  Either way, it can't affect you that way. 

 

 

 

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slippyC  5/09/08 8:49:57 PM

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Originally posted by soco

Hopefully this will address the following PVP issues:

 

Right now pvp is kinda [MOD EDIT]If you can't hide, you are basically bait for someone that can hide or you're just an idiot looking to get [MOD EDIT].  So far I would say the best class for PVP is ranger.   The reason being is because it can deal out shitloads of damage from long range and still has the ability to do it with stealth.  You can't beat the stun shot from stealth mode either. They also get medium armor and great HP/Stamina.

Assasin is probably second and Barbarian third.  I haven't played either but from what I can see on the battlefield is how I rate them. They are both good DD's in PVP.

Soldiers pretty much suck, but they can at least take some hits.  Conqueror (with the best DPS) can do some damage but all in all the tank class is a joke right now with the level cap at 13.  They aren't even worth killing if there are other classes around.  That's how pathetic they are.

If you play a mage class you will get owned.  Plain and simple.  Regardless if you are ToS you are going to get singled out and you will go down quick.  For the people reading this that disagree with me, you are playing with noobs.  (As a ranger) I can two time a mage class.  Healing is crap.  It does not do nearly enough for the amount of damage dished out at this level.

I can't speak for Herald of Xotli or Demonologist since I don't pla