Age of Conan

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by Vayle

 

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by 3on1

OP, plz dont ignore the proofpost of that AoC blog and post your response to it. id love to hear your comments on it. i wont believe u till u post something that confirms your "facts"

Im not allowed to post any proofs cause that would be breaking NDA.  All I can ask ppl to do is to not jump of on the Pre-Order wagon until you are 110% sure the game is running for you.  The rest will come out as soon as game launches in Pre-order wich is just few days away.   You wont miss alot not pre-ordering.  What I, you and we  all should do is to wait until the game is ready - then we pay for it and enjoy it.  Its not part of the job subscription as a custimor to sit and hope a company comes up with a fix  - weeks or months after you have bought it.    We get one free month playing when buying the game.  That game should offer trouble free gameplay.  Im just pointing out at this point there is a chance custimors wont.  And there is nothing wrong with that.

 

If the game is gonna run great and will be a hit - then the custimors or Funcom havn't lost anything if ppl do the vize thing and wait.  What is worrying is that Funcom is putting more and more extra features to the game for those that pre-order.  Why?   Its just a fair question to ask.

Al you are so full of it it's not even funny.

 

First you "claim' to be in the closed beta then try to spread panic because "you say" the game won't run on your computer.  Now you change your tune and try to convince "other" customers that they should "wait" to buy the game.

It's a nice try but I think 90% of the people here can see that you have an agenda.

I have posted proofs that the game isn't running for me.  Those are deleted cause of breach of NDA.  As for my agenda other than asking ppl to not Pre-order something that they are not sure will be working - And that we as paying custimors should be asking for working product at launch.  Then I hope you see it as well as others.  If you think my agenda is anything diffrent then your welcome to think so.

 

I will be the first to tell you if my issues with the game dissapear and Im pretty sure that Pre-orders will tell you if spellweaving is in at launch and they will probaly tell us what they think of it. 

What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario.  If you dissagree with me on that one then ok.  But then maybe you will think back at some point cause its us that are allowing the developers to throw things out that are not ready.   It wont change unless we do something about it. 

you don't get spellweaving until lvl 40, so i doubt there's going to be many people hitting that mark the first 3 days to tell you if it's in or not.  Only the powerlevels will and they probably won't care about it anyways since they are just there to hit 80 and start ganking.

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by spector75

Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless

There is a huge diffrence between a game that has gamebreaking issues and flawless.   Name me 10 games that have been launched that had so big issues that it wasn't playable. 

 

Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ? 

changing your arguement now?

Wasn't it just "What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario."

And not playable by who? Minus the crash here and there which seemed to disapear with that last patch, i had no true issues at all, nor did most of the guys i game with, tho we also run 3-6 gigs of ram, and would never be dumb enough to try to run vista on anything under 4 gigs

i'll do a fast edit as to not pad my post count, Vist takes up 800mb to 1.2 gigs of ram by itself, AoC takes up 1gb to 1.5 gb itself, run those two togather on 2 gigs of ram, yes, you will be unable to play it. Get more ram

Originally posted by KaltesHerz

 

nobody should support bad products, HOWEVER

 

 

People freaking the fuck out over a videogame is rediculous.  That's exactly what people are doing over AoC, they're freaking out.

 

I've worked in the MMO industry(development), I've worked in the automotive industry, I've worked stocking groceries, tech support for MMOs, cell phones, and satellite services, and I can honestly say in all that time I've NEVER seen people lose cohesion on something quite the way people have been going off on AoC. (I get bored easily, I'm working as a baker right now. Letting my programming degree go to waste)

 

Now that's not to say people don't get upset and irritated when I delivered a dented car, or told them I need to roll a truck for their satellite, or had to tell them their comp was a pos and couldn't run a certain game or that the engine was limiting development options in the game we were making. BUT NEVER did people freak out.

 

I'll say it again, GET A GRIP, GET A CLUE, AND STF UP. Grow up, seriously there are more important things to be worrying about than a freaking video game.  If you doomsayers were half as smart as you'd like to think you are, wait till a few months after release then try the game. Bitching and crying about it now isn't going to do a damn thing for you. You'll accomplish absolutely nothing. If you want to accomplish something send in bug reports, cause crying about it here accomplishes nothing.

MMORPG games are now fighting their own history of bad and unfinished releases.  If the same would happen in the car industry or even in bakery then custimors would be freaking out.  But there are certain standards needed reguarding those products.  Currently there is no standard on what is acceptable in the game industry.  But what we know is that there have been huge numbers of terrible things beeing thrown out in the past and thats what the indursty has to live with.  And no genre has been worse than the MMORPG cause you have to play online anyway - so why not just let ppl buy a game - then give them something that works 50% and then you fix it in the next year with patching ?   This is the reality.  Its not pretty but thats just how it is.  

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by spector75

Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless

There is a huge diffrence between a game that has gamebreaking issues and flawless.   Name me 10 games that have been launched that had so big issues that it wasn't playable. 

 

Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ? 

In the pc market you are always going to have a game be unplayable to some people no matter how well the game was programmed as the developers have to take into account of thousands of different possible computer configurations and there are bound to be problems with some of them.  It's not always the devs fault either, sometimes it is the users faults with configurations on the computer such as bad drivers, not uninstalling your video drivers and running driver cleaner before installing new one, fragmented hard drive, registry errors.  There are reasons that software like drivercleaner.net, perfectdisk, perfecdiskRXsuite exist.

no they don't exist to just look at :P

Originally posted by spector75

 

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by spector75

Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless

There is a huge diffrence between a game that has gamebreaking issues and flawless.   Name me 10 games that have been launched that had so big issues that it wasn't playable. 

 

Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ? 

changing your arguement now?

 

 

Wasn't it just "What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario."

And not playable by who? Minus the crash here and there which seemed to disapear with that last patch, i had no true issues at all, nor did most of the guys i game with, tho we also run 3-6 gigs of ram, and would never be dumb enough to try to run vista on anything under 4 gigs

 

i'll do a fast edit as to not pad my post count, Vist takes up 800mb to 1.2 gigs of ram by itself, AoC takes up 1gb to 1.5 gb itself, run those two togather on 2 gigs of ram, yes, you will be unable to play it. Get more ram

secondly - its not playable for me.  After last pach - your miracle patch.  I have posted proofs but they got deleted cause it was breaking NDA.  But look around.

Third.  Again - go to the pre-order website and take a look at the minimum and recommended spec.  Then send a post to Funcom and ask them to add that their game is not running under Vista unless you have 3 gbs of Ram.    Why are you mad at me for using 2 gbs when the minimum for the game is 1 gb ?  Im not gonna try to run AOC with 1 gb of RAM.  But thats what the makers are saying will work.  Now... if they are talking about minimum as a game that will launch at all or can be played for 1 min without crashing.  I dont know.

Standards - not flawless.  There is a huge diffrence.  You can always claim that any product isn't flawless.  But they all have to meet certain standards. Those standards are not withheld in the Gaming indursty.  But maybe we should start thinking about it for abit.  Before we start buying a box and wait 5 years for the game to be developed.  But hey.. maybe you would be happy about it.  Thats why its usually the industry that agrees on the standards.  But the gaming industry hasn't got any.   

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by spector75

 

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by spector75

Name me one game in the history of gaming that has been 100% flawless

There is a huge diffrence between a game that has gamebreaking issues and flawless.   Name me 10 games that have been launched that had so big issues that it wasn't playable. 

 

Now - is the goal to do better than the games that were unplayable or to set the standard abit higher ? 

changing your arguement now?

 

 

Wasn't it just "What Im asking ppl to do is not spend even 2 cents on product that is not ready or in any way broken- then it doesn't matter if its AOC - WAR - WOW - AC or Super mario."

And not playable by who? Minus the crash here and there which seemed to disapear with that last patch, i had no true issues at all, nor did most of the guys i game with, tho we also run 3-6 gigs of ram, and would never be dumb enough to try to run vista on anything under 4 gigs

 

i'll do a fast edit as to not pad my post count, Vist takes up 800mb to 1.2 gigs of ram by itself, AoC takes up 1gb to 1.5 gb itself, run those two togather on 2 gigs of ram, yes, you will be unable to play it. Get more ram

Where did I mention flawless game ?   You brought out that question.  I was talking about certain standards.  That might well include the minimum and recommended spec that I will mention l8ter.

 

secondly - its not playable for me.  After last pach - your miracle patch.  I have posted proofs but they got deleted cause it was breaking NDA.  But look around.

Third.  Again - go to the pre-order website and take a look at the minimum and recommended spec.  Then send a post to Funcom and ask them to add that their game is not running under Vista unless you have 3 gbs of Ram.    Why are you mad at me for using 2 gbs when the minimum for the game is 1 gb ?  Im not gonna try to run AOC with 1 gb of RAM.  But thats what the makers are saying will work.  Now... if they are talking about minimum as a game that will launch at all or can be played for 1 min without crashing.  I dont know.

Standards - not flawless.  There is a huge diffrence.  You can always claim that any product isn't flawless.  But they all have to meet certain standards. Those standards are not withheld in the Gaming indursty.  But maybe we should start thinking about it for abit.  Before we start buying a box and wait 5 years for the game to be developed.  But hey.. maybe you would be happy about it.  Thats why its usually the industry that agrees on the standards.  But the gaming industry hasn't got any.   

minimum is 1gig ram but that is with xp not vista,   gotta remember vista itself almost uses 1 gigs itself, and the OB client used 1.4 gigs according to my system, 1.4 gig plus 1 gigs from vista resources = 2.4gigs when using vista, that is why they are saying 2 gigs using vista is not enough.  Gaming in vista requires atleast 3 gigs or more ram because vista is a resource hog.  Either that or disable all the uneeded services and processes that you don't need running in the background, Plus change vista to use Aero basic instead of full.

Originally posted by Kcissem

 

 

In the pc market you are always going to have a game be unplayable to some people no matter how well the game was programmed as the developers have to take into account of thousands of different possible computer configurations and there are bound to be problems with some of them.  It's not always the devs fault either, sometimes it is the users faults with configurations on the computer such as bad drivers, not uninstalling your video drivers and running driver cleaner before installing new one, fragmented hard drive, registry errors.  There are reasons that software like drivercleaner.net, perfectdisk, perfecdiskRXsuite exist.

no they don't exist to just look at :P

The purpose of Beta is to test all possible hardware and software issues.   I dont think I would be breaking any NDA by saying that Funcom is aware that there are memory leaks in the game.  What is happening is that its affecting the computers diffrently.   Thats not my job to fix.  Thats the developers job.  And that should be fixed before release.  Just like it should have been with Hellgate London but wasn't. 

You are the one who said don't buy a game that is broken in any way... that means no bugs, no crashes, aka flawless..........

As for min system specs, come on, who the hell actually goes by those? i assume you are using a 300mb paging file also so our system can't even use the paging file as a buffer when the ram starts to fill up and thus lessening the blow on your ram.

You are wasting soo much energy on here bitching your head off about what should or shouldn't be,when really all you need to do is go buy 1 more gig of ram and you will be able to run it just fine