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Xtromass  5/13/08 3:57:55 PM

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I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)

 
howardb  5/13/08 5:47:19 PM

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I just put in another 4 hours in the closed beta and I have no idea what you're talking about. The game is running smoother than ever and there's no lag to speak about. In fact I downloaded a new client yesternight. It was too late for me try it out so when I logged in today I was pleasantly surprised - again - over the optimization they had done. I even turned on AA today and it ran better than ever, despite more eyecandy turned on.

Servers are running great. You have no clue what you're talking about. You say bad servers are natural for Funcom? Well both WoW and LoTRO had several days of downtime the first month after release (EU-servers, I don't know how they did in the US).

Funcom lost millions when they released Anarchy Online. They got good reviews, but reviewers said in unison that they had lowered it's score based on unstable servers. It's strange how people seems to rationalize that because Funcom had one launch that didn't go painless, then that's the norm for all eternity. In fact the failed AO launch is the gurrantor that AoC will fare much better. Funcom makes games for profit, not to annoy customers. It's almost like people think Funcom didn't learn anything from years of experience in the MMO-business.

 

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Cabe2323  5/13/08 5:57:01 PM

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Originally posted by Xtromass

I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)

What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

 

My specs:

 

AMD 64 X2 4200+

4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

7200 SATA Harddrive.

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KnThrak  5/13/08 5:57:35 PM

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It's not about whether they want to annoy the customer or not - it is however easy to see AoC could easily use 3-4 more development months.

That they still release (with no direct rivalry from other games unless you'd count Hello Kitty Online ^_^) means that most probably they're running low on funds.

So they have to accept releasing an instable game with a lot of rough edges to support further development. Nothing they can do about it, however this did kill a bunch of games already, the most extreme (and most sad) example is Vanguard, which had insanely well thought-out classes and setups, and nothing else.

Blame your fate!

Terranah  5/13/08 6:05:14 PM

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Originally posted by howardb

I just put in another 4 hours in the closed beta and I have no idea what you're talking about. The game is running smoother than ever and there's no lag to speak about. In fact I downloaded a new client yesternight. It was too late for me try it out so when I logged in today I was pleasantly surprised - again - over the optimization they had done. I even turned on AA today and it ran better than ever, despite more eyecandy turned on.

Servers are running great. You have no clue what you're talking about. You say bad servers are natural for Funcom? Well both WoW and LoTRO had several days of downtime the first month after release (EU-servers, I don't know how they did in the US).

Funcom lost millions when they released Anarchy Online. They got good reviews, but reviewers said in unison that they had lowered it's score based on unstable servers. It's strange how people seems to rationalize that because Funcom had one launch that didn't go painless, then that's the norm for all eternity. In fact the failed AO launch is the gurrantor that AoC will fare much better. Funcom makes games for profit, not to annoy customers. It's almost like people think Funcom didn't learn anything from years of experience in the MMO-business.

 


I'm in beta too and I was also surprised when I logged in yesterday afternoon.  Although there were some graphical glitches, the game's performance had improved quite a bit.  I'm hoping they continue to optimize so I can get an idea what kind of upgrades I need to be making in the future. 

 
weslubow  5/13/08 6:05:53 PM

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What lag/frame issues?

Buy a computer made in this decade.

I have run this game on 3 different machines without any problems.

 
Cabe2323  5/13/08 6:06:47 PM

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Originally posted by KnThrak

It's not about whether they want to annoy the customer or not - it is however easy to see AoC could easily use 3-4 more development months.

That they still release (with no direct rivalry from other games unless you'd count Hello Kitty Online ^_^) means that most probably they're running low on funds.

So they have to accept releasing an instable game with a lot of rough edges to support further development. Nothing they can do about it, however this did kill a bunch of games already, the most extreme (and most sad) example is Vanguard, which had insanely well thought-out classes and setups, and nothing else.

I don't think it needs another 3-4 months of development time and I am a WAR fan.  Have been since the game was announced and loved DAoC.  I consider Mythic to be tied for the number 1 MMO developer (with Turbine I might add) and I still consider the game to be well made. 

Also I doubt they have run out of money.   Turbine has gotten a ton of funding and I am sure that Funcom has been able to raise money as well.  Anytime you have a successful MMO that is still running it gives you the ability to get investment capital.  Which even though AO wasn't a huge success at release it is still active 7 years later. 

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virtuella  5/13/08 6:07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Cabe2323

 

Originally posted by Xtromass

I mean, if you played AO at release you would know that this same thing happened at that release. The most forums I go to I see people complaining about lag and frame rates, but this is natural for FC apparently. If you played AO at  it's release, you will know that this will be sorted ASAP :)

What lag/frame issues?  I have a mid range PC.  Cost me under 1000 dollars to put together. (well maybe 50 dollars over with the new Vista 64-bit I just installed)  And i was getting 40-60 FPS on modified high settings.  (I dropped the view distance down, the aa down, and the shadows set to mine only). 

 

 

My specs:

 

AMD 64 X2 4200+

4 gigs of PC6400 Ram

8800GTS (g92 version) 512MB card

Vista 64 Bit Home Premium

7200 SATA Harddrive.

Ouch you call that a mid range PC?

I would call it way over mid range.

If that's a midrange PC mine is a dinosaur :)

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SignusM  5/13/08 6:09:48 PM

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Originally posted by weslubow

What lag/frame issues?

Buy a computer made in this decade.

I have run this game on 3 different machines without any problems.

You are in the small minority. A game like this is going to cause a lot of framerate issues. And you know what the people over at Vanguard said when people couldn't play the game due to the framerate? "Get a new PC". Yeah. That worked. Stop being so elitist, cause if you actually read up on the problems of your already failing game, then you'd realize a lot of high end machines are having trouble running it too.

 
howardb  5/13/08 6:26:23 PM

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Originally posted by KnThrak

So they have to accept releasing an instable game with a lot of rough edges to support further development.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Have you even tried the game lately? The game isn't either instable nor does it have any rough edges. It's as ready to launch as any MMO ever was.

I'm gonna admit that one month ago I was worried that the game would fail - miserably. Then one patch after another improved the game in giant leaps. Two-three weeks ago I got a patch that more than doubled my fps. The game was ready for release before the last patch, but even so that last patch improved it beyond ready.

It's about time people stopped talking about instability and poor performance because it's a silly discussion. It runs great. People should start talking about the game, it's features, combat system and so on. It's the average joe that makes or breaks this game and I think he's going to love it, just like I am.

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Stellos  5/13/08 7:02:04 PM