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SGoodyer  5/14/08 11:48:19 AM

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XP will have a noticeable boost in performance vs Vista on almost all system. I can see a avverage of 5 FPS difference when I play on Vista. I normally get 43 average in cities on XP and with Vista I can see a drop down to 35 sometimes but averaging about 4-5. Now when you are running a game at such FPS, 4-5 is a lot

 
Smikis  5/14/08 12:29:35 PM

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hey how about you get off ur single core with 512 mb and stop bitching about vista.. geez.. for fuck sake guys.. he got quad.. put 4gb ddr.. if he have less and there is no difference if its wista or win 95...

if i were you in yours spot. well im kinda are.. got my new pc... which is what i could call high end.. but its with nvidia motherboard which have video corruption for a lot of ppl. and as i work in computer selling business i can just abuse my powers. which i didnt  :) using this pc till new 4870 comes out, and getting new pc after all that.. upgrade each 2 months ftw ^^

 

so as i said wait 2-3 weeks when 4870-4850 comes out.. it will boost superior performance and superior price compared to nvidia..

 

8500 gt is piece of shit.. i had one ariving yesterday with 1gb too.. i was like wtf.. ppl cant be that stupid..

 

8500 probably doesnt even use whole 256 ram not to mention 1gb..

 
ravenglade  5/14/08 12:39:15 PM

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8500 is not that great.

Game runs great on vista, dont listen to them.

 

my specs:

q6600

8gb ram (overkill for many users, 4gb is the vista sweet-spot)

9600gt (performance here is almost a 8800gt with a cheaper price tag)

 

during beta i got 35+fps on high settings.

 

 

 

 
Ephimero  5/14/08 12:47:32 PM

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Your processor is quite good (even tho the game apparently isn't using 4 cores, you'd be better overclocking it :P) and thus I guess your mother board also is, but your gfx card is not a gaming one, it's made for small scale design work and movie playing, it might run 3dstudio max for example, but it won't run properly something requiring shaders and anti aliasing in real time.

Your best buy would be a 9600 512 mb or a 8800 gts 512 mb, it wouldn't get expensive for you (around 200) and it's almost the best thing you can buy tu run this game, since SLI seems to be failing at the moment. Search for any of these brands: EVGA, XFX or Gainward, I added gainward to the "two elite" brands cause it has really sweet cooling system :P


ravenglade  5/14/08 12:56:02 PM

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Originally posted by Ephimero

Your processor is quite good (even tho the game apparently isn't using 4 cores, you'd be better overclocking it :P) and thus I guess your mother board also is, but your gfx card is not a gaming one, it's made for small scale design work and movie playing, it might run 3dstudio max for example, but it won't run properly something requiring shaders and anti aliasing in real time.

Your best buy would be a 9600 512 mb or a 8800 gts 512 mb, it wouldn't get expensive for you (around 200) and it's almost the best thing you can buy tu run this game, since SLI seems to be failing at the moment. Search for any of these brands: EVGA, XFX or Gainward, I added gainward to the "two elite" brands cause it has really sweet cooling system :P

Is it official info that it doesnt use 4 cores? It sure looked like it was stressing 3-4 at any given time on my machine.

 
Souldrainer  5/14/08 1:27:15 PM

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@ the OP, when was the last time you tried to load up AoC?  You do realize that they overhauled performance on May 10th, right?

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HisButterfly  5/14/08 1:40:22 PM

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Originally posted by Souldrainer

@ the OP, when was the last time you tried to load up AoC?  You do realize that they overhauled performance on May 10th, right?


Today I logged in briefly. I can honestly say that I did see improvements in the performance but not by much. With my settings on Medium and 2x AA I topped out at 11fps- the highest by far for me.

I am not giving up on the game nor am I bashing it in any way, before anyone gets upset at me for that. I'm not even complaining about the game. I'm complaining about my less than month old computer not being able to play it properly and taking full responsibility for not asking around before buying a new video card.

Truly, I appreciate everyone who has responded with their thoughts and opinions. New information coming in is what helps those of us who are new(er) to gaming make better decisions. So, kudos to all you kind souls!

 
Souldrainer  5/14/08 3:25:16 PM

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Originally posted by HisButterfly

 

Originally posted by Souldrainer

@ the OP, when was the last time you tried to load up AoC?  You do realize that they overhauled performance on May 10th, right?


Today I logged in briefly. I can honestly say that I did see improvements in the performance but not by much. With my settings on Medium and 2x AA I topped out at 11fps- the highest by far for me.

 

I am not giving up on the game nor am I bashing it in any way, before anyone gets upset at me for that. I'm not even complaining about the game. I'm complaining about my less than month old computer not being able to play it properly and taking full responsibility for not asking around before buying a new video card.

Truly, I appreciate everyone who has responded with their thoughts and opinions. New information coming in is what helps those of us who are new(er) to gaming make better decisions. So, kudos to all you kind souls!


There are lots of settings you can tweak.  With a   Geforce 7 win XP system and 2GB of RAM, you should definitely be able to run the game, but you have to keep in mind that it is a massive power hog.  FSAA and shadows and bloom should be off, and you should be on low settings, for starters.  Before you start turning on FSAA, you would need a Geforce 8 card.  Do a search or ask on the forums for some Geforce 7 tweaks you can do.  I am sure your system can run it.

The build between May 10th and 12th was similar to the release build.  If you missed that window, you missed a rare chance at something similar to retail quality.

EDIT:  I just realized your computer is less than a month old.  You seem like a new computer gamer, because you are surprised that this Dell system cannot run the latest games.  Most of us who have been in the hobby for a while do not buy computers.  We buy about 10 boxes of separate parts with separate warranties and build our computers ourselves.  That is the only way you will get maximum power for a minimum price. Caveat Emptor.  Your system probably cost you more than mine cost me, and I can run AoC with the buggy version... high settings everything on except DX10 and get 45 FPS.  If you know any friends who build their own computer, my advice is to get help from them and ship the Dell back.  You will save lots of money and have a much better computer.

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xcalibur  5/14/08 7:40:01 PM

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Leave me alone.

Also, xp and vista are about on par for performance now.  It only took Nvidia like a year to get decent drivers.

xcalibur  5/14/08 7:40:58 PM

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