Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

no wonder vanguard dont have much players its cause they dont make free trial!!! trial will suck in players! why they dont make trials?????

Because Vanguard now lacks the competent developers it at one point once had.

That and they have more pressing things to do, which is finish the game they started making long long ago. Despite what was turned over at launch, the Vanguard of today is much better for performance and stability. Unfortunately, in my opinion they added to many "EQ2-ish" features that no longer make the game nearly as unique (BOP,BOE gear).

That and it seems as if they just dropped all improvement on the once highly touted Diplomatic sphere.

Oh well.

yes - the lack of a free trial is why Vanguard has no players

Originally posted by Souvec

Because Vanguard now lacks the competent developers it at one point once had.

That and they have more pressing things to do, which is finish the game they started making long long ago. Despite what was turned over at launch, the Vanguard of today is much better for performance and stability. Unfortunately, in my opinion they added to many "EQ2-ish" features that no longer make the game nearly as unique (BOP,BOE gear).

That and it seems as if they just dropped all improvement on the once highly touted Diplomatic sphere.

Oh well.

If memory serves it hardly ran until a few months ago and had one of sorryist, incomplete, botched and f**ked up high profile launches ever.

Had the original devs had a shred of "competentcy" as you point out, the current dev team would not need to dedicate most of what little resourses they have to making the game run / perform & stability issues.

Originally posted by Souvec

Because Vanguard now lacks the competent developers it at one point once had.

That and they have more pressing things to do, which is finish the game they started making long long ago. Despite what was turned over at launch, the Vanguard of today is much better for performance and stability. Unfortunately, in my opinion they added to many "EQ2-ish" features that no longer make the game nearly as unique (BOP,BOE gear).

That and it seems as if they just dropped all improvement on the once highly touted Diplomatic sphere.

Oh well.

lol I think the "competent developers" all left when then opiates ran out.

Originally posted by UpskirtPower

no wonder vanguard dont have much players its cause they dont make free trial!!! trial will suck in players! why they dont make trials?????

I seem to remember that that is one thing they are working on, no eta last time I heard though...

I can't believe they destoryed the customization of the characters... pfft whatever.

This game was, disappointingly doomed before it launched in my view. It had huge expectations and a great dev team but I believe that gamers need to have faith and trust in their chosen titles. Most gamers want to build a long term emotional commitment and loyalty to their games and are easily put off if the reports of a failing funded company, mass redundancies, incomplete hurries launch strategy. Would you invest in something that rocks your faith in its quality, support or longevity.

Some will, regardless, and I appluad them as well as others who chose to wait or go elsewhere.

Games, all genres, usually have one chance to get it right, especially MMO's whose subscription funded model plays huge additional burden on that all important launch crowd and very raid positive reports.

VG had its odds stacked against it. Its a great shame for those who worked on it and I do give huge props for SOE trying to move it forward.

I hope for the genre and the players, that they succeed

Trail was pulled because it was being heavily abused by gold sellers. It got ridicules the amount of spam they had going. I left just before they added the spam filter, but I can imagine the spam folder would have been endless if the trail were still available to the gold sellers. Thank those who insist on buying ingame currency in monthly sub MMO's.

Originally posted by IAmMMO

Trail was pulled because it was being heavily abused by gold sellers. It got ridicules the amount of spam they had going. I left just before they added the spam filter, but I can imagine the spam folder would have been endless if the trail were still available to the gold sellers. Thank those who insist on buying ingame currency in monthly sub MMO's.

According to John Smedly the Gold Spammers where using a credit card to order new accounts.  They would spam the gold, get banned, then have the credit card company stop payment to SOE. 

Besides the annoyance of have the spam, SOE was getting hurt financially because the credit card companies where charging SOE a fine becuase of the cancellation. 

SOE has put in place a new credit card ordering system that prevents this. 

I looked for the threads discussing this but could not find them.

SOE wants to put out the trial Island rather than trial keys.  The trial island will be a smaller download (comparitvely) to down loading the whole product which you would need with a trial key.  This will make it easier for people to try out the game, and if the like it they can download the whole game.