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Ikonic  5/18/08 7:12:36 PM

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Overall I like the game, but playing on a PvP server there are some things need to change.

 

Loading Screen camping, this is pathetic. Something should of been in game from start about this.

 

Instance Swapping running. How lame is it that you can fight someone and they can swap out of the instance instantly?

 FC needs to fix these on the PvP servers.

 
Czzarre  5/18/08 7:14:53 PM

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MMORPG Character Monuments

...When its time for your character to take a well deserved rest...

I wrote about this in my review (Read it Here). It is a significant issue to those who want some sort of 'unspoken' PvP honor. To those who like FFA, no rules, no regrets...this is it.

convict  5/18/08 7:19:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ikonic

Overall I like the game, but playing on a PvP server there are some things need to change.

 

Loading Screen camping, this is pathetic. Something should of been in game from start about this.

 

Instance Swapping running. How lame is it that you can fight someone and they can swap out of the instance instantly?

 FC needs to fix these on the PvP servers.

Sounds like eq2 pvp.... People would attack you, and find out they are going to lose, so they just zone out..or zone hop,hug, etc.

People would camp zone in points, attack people, if a close fight showed up, they just zoned away.

A lot of the cheesy tactics on eq2 are due to titles and people worried about their kvd ratio. Maybe aoc wont have the title whores, time will tell.

tbox  5/18/08 7:22:22 PM

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Regarding the zone out escape.

Not to toot my on horn because anyone with a basic intelligence would have foreseen this happening but I did get a responce months ago by a dev saying they would put in a small timer. I guess they never got around to it.

 

Spawn camp thing is so obvious and broken.  It makes no sense for even those are hardcore pvp as I.  

 

I have killed many a people aoeing the spawn camp and I have also been chain raped there as well.

 
Ikonic  5/18/08 7:51:19 PM

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The Instance swapping is a bigger conern than Loading area camping. You can instant swap anywhere that has an instance #.

Also, PvP XP is broken outside of minigames so farming people is pointless.

 
Huzz  5/18/08 7:58:08 PM

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Originally posted by Ikonic

The Instance swapping is a bigger conern than Loading area camping. You can instant swap anywhere that has an instance #.

Also, PvP XP is broken outside of minigames so farming people is pointless.

i just think you don't gain pvp exp at lower lvls. i think it comes into play at 80 or close to it. not sure tho.

 
tbox  5/18/08 8:10:39 PM

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Why they dont they tell us then whats the reason for it to be secret.

 
WiccanCircle  5/18/08 8:38:35 PM

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Originally posted by Czzarre

To those who like FFA, no rules, no regrets...this is it.


This is why PvP always fails in MMO games.  If there are rules the kids cry; if there are no rules, same.

It never works.  Because societies fail under chaos.  MMOs are mini civilizations and require at least some rudimentary laws.  There isn't any way to do this... so all the gaming companies can do it try for the rediculous pipe-dream of balance through nerfing.

What ends up happening is that the 90% of the people playing the game stay away from PvP yet get beaten to death with nerfs that have nothing to do with their game mechanics.

 

"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."

Zorndorf  5/18/08 8:50:07 PM

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Originally posted by WiccanCircle

 


This is why PvP always fails in MMO games.  If there are rules the kids cry; if there are no rules, same.

 

It never works.  Because societies fail under chaos.  MMOs are mini civilizations and require at least some rudimentary laws.  There isn't any way to do this... so all the gaming companies can do it try for the rediculous pipe-dream of balance through nerfing.

What ends up happening is that the 90% of the people playing the game stay away from PvP yet get beaten to death with nerfs that have nothing to do with their game mechanics.

 

100% agreed.

Open world PvP is a myth. It came from a time when MMORPG's would mean "Hey, we can actually play now with people on line in a fantasy world" and actually had NO rules at all in PvP.

Scenarios, arena's or battlegrounds or whatever you call them replaced "open world PvP" and open world pvp is nothing more than a nostalgic memory of amateurism.

Open world PvP means for 99.8% of the people ganking that lone ranger (or be ganked).

BUT Conan just added a new expression: "Death by loading ..." (worst ganking ever).

It should be fixed  ASAP.

 
Ender4  5/18/08 8:53:24 PM

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The split is generally pretty close to 50%/50% these days and the 50% that play on PvE onl