Age of Conan

I think the best comparison to the game would be DDO as in world build up and not to Guild Wars or EQ2.

It is completely instanced and it has no open world whatsoever, therefore I won't play it. Easy as that.

If it were built from ground up as an instanced game like GW or DDO it might have worked out but this "Lets structure the game like an open world but make it completely instanced" is total bull. Sorry.

and here's a bit longer rant on the differences between zoning and instancing

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2030375/thread/181584#2030375

Originally posted by haltea

Originally posted by DownMonkey

Originally posted by haltea

 

Originally posted by DownMonkey
WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

 

 

Which are?

Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.

Smaller worlds? Smaller than AoC, you gotta be kiddin, you obviously have no idea. AoC has the smallest world of all major mmoprg i played.

Originally posted by markoraos

It is completely instanced and it has no open world whatsoever, therefore I won't play it. Easy as that.

If it were built from ground up as an instanced game like GW or DDO it might have worked out but this "Lets structure the game like an open world but make it completely instanced" is total bull. Sorry.

and here's a bit longer rant on the differences between zoning and instancing

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2030375/thread/181584#2030375

Originally posted by xaviondk

The problem is that people keeps comparing AOC to WoW..  AOC is not ment to be a wow look a like..

 

I Enjoyed Diablo 2, and that was a zoned game.. I also love AOC, thats also a zoned game. I also like WoW, but im not comparing it to AOC..

Did I miss something? I've read every post in this thread and, until yours, no one mentioned WoW.

Where does the OP say anything about being a WoW look-alike? Or about them wanting it to be a WoW Look-alike? Or... could it be that you invoked that completely out of the blue simply so you could counter and/or dismiss the OP's argument outright?

Someone else threw out the over-rated and over-used "Well what level did you get to?" argument. Again... another attempt to dismiss the OP's opinion based on some arbitrary "bar" conveniently contrived to disqualify it. They've earned their right to an opinion, just like anyone else by having bought and played the game.

Does it matter what level they got to? Especially when others are saying it's the same even beyond level 20 or whatever? It's no different than how people will use post count to quality or disqualify someone's opinion when they disagree with it.

That said... It's not a "WoW" thing. It's a MMO thing. What the OP is missing in AoC is a seamless, contiguous world where everyone coexists in the same area, at the same time - not in instances. I, for one, agree with him because that drives me nuts as well. It drove me nuts in Guild Wars when in the "hub" areas, it annoyed me "back in the day" when Anarchy Online was more populated and there were multiple instances of a given area.

It's the OP's right to dislike it as much as it is others' right to think it's fine. Don't have to agree with them, but for cryin' out loud... would you people learn to simply disagree with an opinion you don't share, and stop trying to shoot it out of the water, or discredit the person voicing it?

Originally posted by DownMonkey

Originally posted by haltea

Originally posted by DownMonkey

Originally posted by haltea

 

Originally posted by DownMonkey
WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

 

 

Which are?

Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.

Smaller worlds? Smaller than AoC, you gotta be kiddin, you obviously have no idea. AoC has the smallest world of all major mmoprg i played.

I'm not going to argue with you, I knew as soon as you said "which are" that you where looking for an argument about things you clearly don't understand. I said smaller worlds as bait and you took it, I could go into detail as to what I mean but I don't see any point, you've made your mind up.

LOL, yeah, exactly my point, you have no arguments at all to back up your bold statements.

Originally posted by haltea

Originally posted by DownMonkey

Originally posted by haltea

 

Originally posted by DownMonkey
WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

 

 

Which are?

Smaller worlds. Visually pre-loading worlds could never look like AOC without them performing very badly like Vanguard. There is also a reduction in performance around pre-loading points, try having a large PVP battle in WoW on a pre-load point and you'll see a large drop in performance on a average machine. There is no such thing as a open world, some MMOs just go out of their way to make it seem that way.

Smaller worlds? Smaller than AoC, you gotta be kiddin, you obviously have no idea. AoC has the smallest world of all major mmoprg i played.

Smallest World?  Are you kidding me?  What level have you gotten to?   If you haven't gotten over level 20 yet, you ain't seen nothing to base that statement on.

Kopshef and Connells Valley are huge alone.  Each are about the size of 1/2 of Qalia in Vanguard. And that is ignoring all the other zones.

If Conan is excepted as a Multi Mass On line Role Playing Game, then I am done with playing MMORPG's.

I am happy to see that most (intelligent) people now after a few days see the difference between:

a simple linear OFF line game with created instances (just to manage the graphics engine)

MMORPG's  = where open worlds still exist.

Conan is a SMOIGT CORPG: a small offline instanced game technique camouflaged as an on line role playing game.

The moment you hit cities with even a handull of people the lag strikes. No matter how TINY they make each instance.

The "miracle patch" between the intiial Open Beta and now? : I bet they just simply reduced the number of people permitted in ONE instance.

That's the reason "the massive siege" engine aren't avallable AND limited to 48 people. And I bet you even than it will be laggy lagyy time.

That's the reason why computers which even cou!d run Crysis in a decent mode are having troubles when they strike cities and other populated places in Conan.

Originally posted by haltea

 

Originally posted by DownMonkey
WoW zones, it just hides it with pre-loading which has its down sides as well.

 

 

Which are?

Bad graphics...