Age of Conan

I know we all expect more from game designers this day and age, but alot of the so called hardcore players or new mmorpg players are definetly SPOILED!

STOP, look around in the game once in a while. We intend to overlook alot...

Everyone just trys to race to level cap and get the bragging right I made it to level capp 1st and say, where is the End Game Content.

You breeze right through the story and just click away and dont even bother reading the quests.Games in the past that didnt have much, but was just enough for the 1st year to keep people sorta happy.

Lets start with the most Popular MMORPGs out there.

World of Warcraft - They didnt have Battlegrounds in the beginning, just open world PvP. They only had 1 major instance content and that was Molten Core (in which people would do for weeks). 

There were alot of spawn campers ganking players as they got off there flight from one location to another. And you knew a RAID was on the way cause everything in the area would just LAG OUT. (PvP server)

Mounts were expensive and green gear really sucked. This was the 1st year of World of Warcraft. However the game was fun but was very repetitve as well. I hate Westfall and cannot bear going into that place to level anymore. Too much Westfall Soup for me.

The game still lacks player housing and guild halls. But makes up for it in other things.

anyways..

It took 4 fcken years to get where WoW  is now and people expect new games to deliver everything this game has in which it took Blizzard 4 years to implement in the game.

Lord of the Rings - No player housing the 1st year and no one even PvPed the first 3 to 6 months since Lotro didnt have PvP, it is Player vs Monster Player. It had the content and lore, but lacked distinction from the other mmorpgs and was duped a WoW clone with a Lord of the Rings Lore and better graphics.

Star Wars Galaxies - First open world player cities, but the only draw back, too much lag in citys. But was the SANDBOX mmorpg. People always forget it had instances as well, when hoping from 1 planet to another, it just that each planet was pretty massive, but as time passed, you could get to the end of the map fairly easily once mounts/vechicles arrived.

In the beginning, SWG didnt have mounts nor vechicles (this really sucked!). Game would always crashe, people camped static spawn sights and it never did have much content at all, All it had was the magical world of the Star Wars Universe and you as a character are living and breathing in a movie we all loved. So we accepted it for what it was and made our own content. 

Now the game is much older and has a shitload of things to do. But then again, it took 5 years to get where this game is and we expect more in the newer mmorpgs to have this CONTENT on DAY 1. (JTL didnt come until a year later and the so called other expansions).

So just basing it off these 3 games we all reconize here on this forum.. Most of you folks out there are nothing but SPOILED gamers that expect everything to be handed to you on a plate on day 1. The older mmo players out there got alot more respect to what this developers can do to make the next big game, but most of you just dont respect the game for what it has now and what it will offer.

An honest opinion is'nt getting to level 10, 20, 30, 40 or even level cap in 1st week and saying the game sucks, its the adventure to level capp with friends and making memories along the way and enjoying what the game currently offers. So you can say, I remember when this game came out and it didnt even have (fill in the blank here).

So fi you dont like AoC and what it offers now and hoping the next MMO has everything you want on Day 1, well goodluck, I gurantee you wont find a MMO with everything you want. (Take the bad with the good is what I am saying).

Are players spoiled for demanding games that aren't unplayable for months after release, or have rampant kill stealing, spawn camping, mindless grinding, etc.? Every time the bar is raised, IMO any new games should meet or exceed it.

Originally posted by snapple232

Are players spoiled for demanding games that aren't unplayable for months after release, or have rampant kill stealing, spawn camping, mindless grinding, etc.? Every time the bar is raised, IMO any new games should meet or exceed it.

Then you best stick to console games and not even touch mmorpgs on your PC.

I love your 1 and only POST though =)

I agree with your post and it is true that ppl are spoilt and it clearly shows with not Just AoC but every other new MMO to come i mean the games dont even have to be out and ppl are already sulking like a bunch of kids who did not get there cabbage patch doll for Christmas . People will put the Argument in that "well they know what they have to do to get things right why don't they do it" people tend to forget how much some of these games cost to make, people tend to forget they are playing a PC game and not a Console so unfortunately you will need to upgrade when new games come out it has been like this for years i know i have been doing it for quite some time now and probably was doing it way before playing MMO's.

A game for me is what me and my guild/team mates make of it we make it a journey, we have fun, we make stories that will be told in years to come even if the game has died off,why is it that people want to race to the top? cant they see what every 1 else thinks of them when they come  here bragging about it? why would you want to label yourself as an UBER GEEK?

The Problem with most of today's MMO gamers is that they do not truly understand what the meaning of MMORPG  means in all essence it is an RPG which is made for a Massive multiplayer fanbase and i know a lot of develpoers have got this idea wrong as well but tell me how many out there had played  D&D in it's orignal form?How many ppl out there have truly experienced an adventure? i would guess not a great deal i would say a lot have but there would probably be a lot more that ave not and this is where the Trouble lies.

People dont understand the Genre, they dont know what it is the be on  journey they dont know how to Role play, and dont give me this well i dont want to Role play take a good look at what you are playing M M O Role Playing Game, when people start to learn that creating a toon is meant to be a little bit more than just rolling something to race through a game then brag about it then they have something to learn imo.

Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS

I know we all expect more from game designers this day and age, but alot of the so called hardcore players or new mmorpg players are definetly SPOILED!

STOP, look around in the game once in a while. We intend to overlook alot...

Everyone just trys to race to level cap and get the bragging right I made it to level capp 1st and say, where is the End Game Content.

You breeze right through the story and just click away and dont even bother reading the quests.Games in the past that didnt have much, but was just enough for the 1st year to keep people sorta happy.

Lets start with the most Popular MMORPGs out there.

World of Warcraft - They didnt have Battlegrounds in the beginning, just open world PvP. They only had 1 major instance content and that was Molten Core (in which people would do for weeks). 

There were alot of spawn campers ganking players as they got off there flight from one location to another. And you knew a RAID was on the way cause everything in the area would just LAG OUT. (PvP server)

Mounts were expensive and green gear really sucked. This was the 1st year of World of Warcraft. However the game was fun but was very repetitve as well. I hate Westfall and cannot bear going into that place to level anymore. Too much Westfall Soup for me.

The game still lacks player housing and guild halls. But makes up for it in other things.

anyways..

It took 4 fcken years to get where WoW  is now and people expect new games to deliver everything this game has in which it took Blizzard 4 years to implement in the game.

Lord of the Rings - No player housing the 1st year and no one even PvPed the first 3 to 6 months since Lotro didnt have PvP, it is Player vs Monster Player. It had the content and lore, but lacked distinction from the other mmorpgs and was duped a WoW clone with a Lord of the Rings Lore and better graphics.

Star Wars Galaxies - First open world player cities, but the only draw back, too much lag in citys. But was the SANDBOX mmorpg. People always forget it had instances as well, when hoping from 1 planet to another, it just that each planet was pretty massive, but as time passed, you could get to the end of the map fairly easily once mounts/vechicles arrived.

In the beginning, SWG didnt have mounts nor vechicles (this really sucked!). Game would always crashe, people camped static spawn sights and it never did have much content at all, All it had was the magical world of the Star Wars Universe and you as a character are living and breathing in a movie we all loved. So we accepted it for what it was and made our own content. 

Now the game is much older and has a shitload of things to do. But then again, it took 5 years to get where this game is and we expect more in the newer mmorpgs to have this CONTENT on DAY 1. (JTL didnt come until a year later and the so called other expansions).

So just basing it off these 3 games we all reconize here on this forum.. Most of you folks out there are nothing but SPOILED gamers that expect everything to be handed to you on a plate on day 1. The older mmo players out there got alot more respect to what this developers can do to make the next big game, but most of you just dont respect the game for what it has now and what it will offer.

An honest opinion is'nt getting to level 10, 20, 30, 40 or even level cap in 1st week and saying the game sucks, its the adventure to level capp with friends and making memories along the way and enjoying what the game currently offers. So you can say, I remember when this game came out and it didnt even have (fill in the blank here).

So fi you dont like AoC and what it offers now and hoping the next MMO has everything you want on Day 1, well goodluck, I gurantee you wont find a MMO with everything you want. (Take the bad with the good is what I am saying).

 

Hell yes next generation MMO players are spoiled. They're spoiled little brats who don't know how good they have it. Back in my day we didn't have these fancy wancy games or these fancy wancy graphics. All we had was crayons and toilet paper. Nothing was handed to us old timers, nothing was given to us on a plate(except crap from a dog's arse). We had to make something out of nothing and that something was something special. You dig what I'm saying? Now quit yer whining and be thankful for what you got.

KingCarebear

We are spoiled by WOW, but that doesn't mean we have to dish hard earn cash for a game that might not make it past a year of its reputation.

Originally posted by snapple232

Are players spoiled for demanding games that aren't unplayable for months after release, or have rampant kill stealing, spawn camping, mindless grinding, etc.? Every time the bar is raised, IMO any new games should meet or exceed it.

Originally posted by charlizd

I agree with your post and it is true that ppl are spoilt and it clearly shows with not Just AoC but every other new MMO to come i mean the games dont even have to be out and ppl are already sulking like a bunch of kids who did not get there cabbage patch doll for Christmas . People will put the Argument in that "well they know what they have to do to get things right why don't they do it" people tend to forget how much some of these games cost to make, people tend to forget they are playing a PC game and not a Console so unfortunately you will need to upgrade when new games come