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MORB  5/26/08 1:24:43 PM

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I'm speechless.

 

1. They need to hire people with a minimal amount of command of the english language as GM. "No lol I didn't say anything like that'... I have an issue when the goddamn GM sound like a random dumbass player.

2. If you're going to have rules, they have to be rules. Clear cut, predictable, and making sense.
 "Few" and "know what I mean" shouldn't ever be uttered by a GM. Basically what the GM said is that they can ban you if you kill someone and they feel like they don't like you.

This could be a big problem in particular as it leaves open the possibility that a GM take revenge on another player who previously ganked his playing char.

3. If you want to have rules, build them in the game. People who QQ about corpse camping have no understanding of the dynamics of a player versus player game. Basically, you start stiring shit (CC'ing is one way to do it) so people organize themselves to counter attack you. If people would see it as a challenge to be overcome (by getting help and organizing themselves) instead of QQing to the GMs, it could blossom into a nice, spontaneous, fun PvP battle. The guys doing the camping would probably like nothing more than that.

If you start having to impose limits on yourself to what you can do to other players, you're falling into the scrub pitfall. Gaute and the other design leads at FC need to read and internalize this: http://www.sirlin.net/archive/playing-to-win-part-1/

4. people attacking players after they zone... How could they fail to see this coming?

There used to be in the code something back from AO where the server, upon zoning in a character, would wait for the client to send an acknowledgement that it finished loading before activating the character. They shouldn't display the character on other clients at all until this happens.

Here's a huge /facepalm at FC.

 

 
Enigma  5/26/08 1:26:44 PM

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This is what happens when you merge the worse PvP ruleset together with an MMO that allows partial nudity.

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ZeGerman1942  5/26/08 1:26:52 PM

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Originally posted by BaldyMike

 


I just can't believe you spawn campers!!!

 

What do you get from it? The pleasure of ganking someone that is still suffering rez sickness? What skill is in that??

You try to justify you existance by saying it's a PVP server...if they dont like it go to a PvE server. Aye...it is a PvP server but that doesnt justify ganking...actually I pitty people like gankers that have nothing better to do than to grief people. ..it's sad really O.o


Don't blame the gankers. Blame the system that allows ganking as easy as it is in Age of Conan.

I have never been a ganker or will i ever be a ganker and i don't agree with gankers, but just because i don't agree with them, does not mean they don't have the right to do it. It's their play style and who am i to tell them what to do and what not to do.

It is up to the designers of a game to decide if ganking is allowed or not, if it is easily accomplished or not. WoW for example allows you to avoid ganking to a certain extent due to the ghost form. AoC does not provide this, so gankers will have an easy time.

To be honest with you i would have expected more from AoC when it comes to PvP. The whole license screams PvP (in particular world PvP). Instead it appears that PvP was added almost as an after thought with some meager mini games and a watered down siege system (which is reportedly not in the game yet even though it was promised). Bugs on the PvP servers mean that group and guild members can kill each other, which thanks to splash damage makes group PvP a bit of a nightmare.

So all in all i'd say the design of the whole PvP experience in AoC is lacking and some people are using it to have some fun. Why blame them?

 
Enigma  5/26/08 1:28:20 PM

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Originally posted by Praxus

No sympathy here; repeated spawn campers are losers. Sure its no big deal to f*k someone around a few times; but it sounds like you  were camping his spawn for a long time. So it sounds like you got what you deserved.

 

If you actually read it you will see they are spawncamping them because he was spawn camping on of theirs first.

In addition, it doesnt matter. Funcom needs to change their ruleset for PvP because right now its absolutely horrible.

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tkirk  5/26/08 1:30:14 PM

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lol leave spawn campers alone they go beatup in school now it's payback time

 
David_Wolfpa  5/26/08 1:31:02 PM

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Dunno

Fake, completely fake.

I've had quite a few of my friends send petitions complaining about being spawn camped and the GM's ALWAYS reply with a generic response that they are not doing anything that is against the rules and its an issue that a solution for is being looked into.

Theres currently a 500 petition queue on Wildsoul, do you guys really think a GM would take time out to discuss and "lol" with players reporting spawn camping when its probably reported hundreds of times each day and there are plenty more important petitions to deal with?

h4te  5/26/08 1:33:02 PM

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Thank you

Have a good day

Do not*

LOL.

 
Fikroc  5/26/08 1:34:07 PM

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Just don't let it get to you. I've been spawn camped but after the 2nd or 3rd death u can just sprint and typically get away or atleast kite them from the spawn, die, then run another direction from spawn and be fine. Avoid that area for 30 min and gain some lvls, head back and that jackass will probably still be the same lvl and lack of skill that you can take them on your own terms. I'm not saying its right, but you gatta pick your fights and not LET yourself be repeatedly camped. If you can't adapt then PVE servers really might be the best place til the issue is taken care of more effectively.

 
Enigma  5/26/08 1:35:25 PM

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Originally posted by David_Wolfpa

Fake, completely fake.

I've had quite a few of my friends send petitions complaining about being spawn camped and the GM's ALWAYS reply with a generic response that they are not doing anything that is against the rules and its an issue that a solution for is being looked into.

Theres currently a 500 petition queue on Wildsoul, do you guys really think a GM would take time out to discuss and "lol" with players reporting spawn camping when its probably reported hundreds of times each day and there are plenty more important petitions to deal with?

its not fake. It was confirmed on the funcom server. Nice try tho!

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KIR4  5/26/08 1:37:28 PM