Star Wars Galaxies

Originally posted by JestorRodo

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

  Then Lets go with a source that has the stamp of approval of all -

GCW Server Stats

Check this page if you want to know which server got the most officers! Find out which servers are dominated by the Rebel Alliance and which servers are safely under control of our beloved Emperor.

 swg.activeframe.de/bb-std/tp-en/main.12.html

This week the number of players in the Galatic Civil War is 9199 and add 50% more for carebears . That would bring it up to 14700 players  this past week and I am being nice. It may be only about 12k.

  12k to 14.7k across 25 servers ( not counting the Test Server) is too low. POTBS had 65k players across 11 servers and they just got knocked down to just 4 servers. 

SOE is just getting lazy because its too much work for a game that is a hair from its Killswitch.

 

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by JestorRodo

 

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

  Then Lets go with a source that has the stamp of approval of all -

 

GCW Server Stats

Check this page if you want to know which server got the most officers! Find out which servers are dominated by the Rebel Alliance and which servers are safely under control of our beloved Emperor.

 swg.activeframe.de/bb-std/tp-en/main.12.html

This week the number of players in the Galatic Civil War is 9199 and add 50% more for carebears . That would bring it up to 14700 players  this past week and I am being nice. It may be only about 12k.

  12k to 14.7k across 25 servers ( not counting the Test Server) is too low. POTBS had 65k players across 11 servers and they just got knocked down to just 4 servers. 

SOE is just getting lazy because its too much work for a game that is a hair from its Killswitch.

 

Fairplay of course - i wouldnt (and cant) argue with this, i was simply pointing out that 6k players as the original post suggests, is clearly, wrong, this is proven conclusively by the link you provided. The population debate/disussion is a long one, and not one which i intend to delve into right now, having already gone there many times before with the likes of salvaje/iwantmyswg. :)

Except that link shows how many characters have reached the officer level, not players.  Since SWG allows two characters per server (three in some cases), there could potentially be fewer players than the total number of officers.  I don't believe there is, but the possibility is there.  I'd say the number of players is closer to 25K, at least for the active player numbers.  Considering that SOE's account management system seems to not work as it should (they seem to continue to charge folks who cancel much more than it occurs with other companies, to the point where I wonder if it is unintentional), the number of paying accounts could be much higher.

I understand what SOE gains from SWG still being active, as having the Star Wars license is beneficial when raising capital for financing other projects.  I don't understand what benefit LEC is gaining by having such a dismal product linked to their major brand.  The tiny amount of money SWG brings in is nothing compared to what a functional, and more importantly fun, Star Wars based MMORPG could earn.  Worse yet, SWG itself will likely harm any future Star Wars based MMORPG, and the developer of said game will have to spend a lot of time distancing themselves from SWG's development history and the decisions that have led SWG to it's current dismal state.

For anyone who bemoans the fact that all the ire of the former SWG playerbase has been mainly focused on SOE, just wait until a non SOE developed, LEC IP based, MMORPG is announced.  It won't change anyone's opinion of SOE, since the folks at SOE seem very content with going out of their way to piss on their customers.

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Originally posted by saay

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Originally posted by bstuart

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Originally posted by saay

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Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

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I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

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more lies from saay an employee of SOE whats the matter the truth hurts liers like you
swg is a dead game no matter bullcrap you try to spread

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I think you're a a little confused, im not the one lying. And by the way, it think i'd know a little more about the state of the game since i actually play it. We're doing pretty good thanks ;)

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I actually play it, although I play CoH and WoW more, and we are NOT doing well at all. Bloodfin is one of the better servers, but is a mere shadow of it's former self. My other servers, which were quieter, are Intrepid (dead), Shadowfire (more dead), Kettemoor (even worse than more dead), and Chilastra (not so great).

Age of Conan is causing quite the hemmorage, larger than I thought would happen.

I have no idea what the actual numbers might be, and wouldn't even venture to guess, but things are not going well at all.

Originally posted by JestorRodo

 

  12k to 14.7k across 25 servers ( not counting the Test Server) is too low. POTBS had 65k players across 11 servers and they just got knocked down to just 4 servers. 

SOE is just getting lazy because its too much work for a game that is a hair from its Killswitch.

 

Nah, it isn't laziness, it is the fact that LEC won't let them do a merge.  LEC's position on server merges is 'You broke it, you fix it!'.  If SWG was an SOE owned game, the servers would have been merged about six months after the NGE went live.  The folks at SOE aren't very concerned with people losing their houses or cities, but it does they are more than willing to use it as an excuse in the hopes of tricking the customers they seem to despise into thinking they somehow 'care'.

Look at the poor deluded folks who still believe that SWG hasn't had an expansion is because SOE wants to focus on making the core game better, or the even more outrageous, they they want to expand the game for free with the cookie-cutter instances and mindless collections because they care about their SWG subscribers.  These are the folks who post ideas, on the OBoard, about what the next expansion should include, as if the game is almost 'fixed' to the point where the developers can get to work on an expansion.  The simple fact is, there will be no future expansions, and there has been no expansions since ToOW, because the NGE decimated the playerbase to the point where an expansion would have zero chance of selling well enough to recover the investment in making it.

Anyway, server merges haven't happened, not because the folks at SOE don't want to do them (the Smed himself posted that merges needed to be fastracked), but because the folks at LEC don't want to do them, primarily due to a pissing contest between them and SOE.

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by bstuart

 

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

more lies from saay an employee of SOE whats the matter the truth hurts liers like you

 

swg is a dead game no matter bullcrap you try to spread

I think you're a a little confused, im not the one lying. And by the way, it think i'd know a little more about the state of the game since i actually play it. We're doing pretty good thanks ;)

To the OP, it isn't worth it on Kauri.  I transfered to Bria last Dec. (from Kauri) and I think Kauri sports a total of 10 players on at any given time, maybe 40 to 50 in total.

Now for the guy that thinks SWG is doing just fine;  I left Kauri for Bria and Bria was like Kauri prior to the Chapter 6 Combat Downgrade.  SInce then, the numbers even on bria are bleeding at a large rate.  When AoC hit the "pre-time", you couldn't hardly find an ent buff.  Nothing but AFK, level 10 dancers in tinas and they belong to the credit farmers.  I seen a rather large guild, over 100, with about 20 on vent every night go to 2 on vent.  SWG is leaching subs at a very large rate now.

And for the GCW reports.  Most everyone left on SWG has more than 1 account and I happen to know alot of those people listed,(bria and Kauri)  in game, and most have at least 2 toons listed and some, more.  I had 3 accounts, myself. (6 toons)

Damn shame tho.  SWG could have been the best thing since sliced toast.  If they would have chose a foundation and built on that, the way WoW does (without CHANGEING even the FOUNDATION every 3 months), SWG could have went a long way.

The CU/NGE Development Team marches merrily along.

Originally posted by Fishermage

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Originally posted by saay

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Originally posted by bstuart

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Originally posted by saay

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Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

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I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

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more lies from saay an employee of SOE whats the matter the truth hurts liers like you
swg is a dead game no matter bullcrap you try to spread

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I think you're a a little confused, im not the one lying. And by the way, it think i'd know a little more about the state of the game since i actually play it. We're doing pretty good thanks ;)

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I actually play it, although I play CoH and WoW more, and we are NOT doing well at all. Bloodfin is one of the better servers, but is a mere shadow of it's former self. My other servers, which were quieter, are Intrepid (dead), Shadowfire (more dead), Kettemoor (even worse than more dead), and Chilastra (not so great).

Age of Conan is causing quite the hemmorage, larger than I thought would happen.

I have no idea what the actual numbers might be, and wouldn't even venture to guess, but things are not going well at all.

Originally posted by Esquire1980

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by bstuart

 

Originally posted by saay

Originally posted by Vanive

I hear the numbers for SWG were at around 8 thousand, most being Station pass holders who play EQ2 most of the time, this was 4 months ago, I assume it's around 6 thousand by now . Expect it to drop to 3 thousand within the next few months due to new games being launched. BTW SL has about 10 thousand of the SWG vets.

I actually heard subscriptions were down to 10 accounts, 9 of which are station pass holders. Give me a break, those numbers are bollocks.

more lies from saay an employee of SOE whats the matter the truth hurts liers like you

 

swg is a dead game no matter bullcrap you try to spread

I think you're a a little confused, im not the one lying. And by the way, it think i'd know a little more about the state of the game since i actually play it. We're doing pretty good thanks ;)

You must have this confused with another SWG than the 1 I've been playing.  Since I just cancelled my 3 accounts and moved to AoC.

To the OP, it isn't worth it on Kauri.  I transfered to Bria last Dec. (from Kauri) and I think Kauri sports a total of 10 players on at any given time, maybe 40 to 50 in total.

Now for the guy that thinks SWG is doing just fine;  I left Kauri for Bria and Bria was like Kauri prior to the Chapter 6 Combat Downgrade.  SInce then, the numbers even on bria are bleeding at a large rate.  When AoC hit the "pre-time", you couldn't hardly find an ent buff.  Nothing but AFK, level 10 dancers in tinas and they belong to the credit farmers.  I seen a rather large guild, over 100, with about 20 on vent every night go to 2 on vent.  SWG is leaching subs at a very large rate now.

And for the GCW reports.  Most everyone left on SWG has more than 1 account and I happen to know alot of those people listed,(bria and Kauri)  in game, and most have at least 2 toons listed and some, more.  I had 3 accounts, myself. (6 toons)

Damn shame tho.  SWG could have been the best thing since sliced toast.  If they would have chose a foundation and built on that, the way WoW does (without CHANGEING even the FOUNDATION every 3 months), SWG could have went a long way.

The CU/NGE Development Team marches merrily along.