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arctarus  5/27/08 9:23:29 AM

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Originally posted by ProfRed

 

Originally posted by ZeGerman1942

 

Originally posted by ProfRed

 

 

I don't play WoW.  I responded that way because it was clear that the guy hates the game, and he is trying to back up hatred with facts which only works for similar minded people.  Do you see me making a thread where I review the game anywhere?  No you don't because I like the game too much right now to make a valid review.  I couldn't do it without bringing in my love for the game all over the place thus discrediting my review.

Sorry for being so harsh, but it's the truth.

 

I understand your reasons, but i don't see why a statement like "I am sorry Funcom - raped your family - and -murdered your dog-" is necessary.

 

I know these forums rarely are civilized and constructive (you have to sift through about 200 posts to find one nugget of goodness), but it is statements like yours (from both the fanboys and the haters) that will get everyone even more aggressive.

 

Yeah it was out of line.  I'll edit it and apologize for that line.

  Well done mate.  /salute

RIP, Orc Choppa

kgonecrazy  5/27/08 9:23:44 AM

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I agree with most of the points you have, however there are a few that I feel like you didn't have enough thoughts on. You said the professions are just as typical as any other MMOs as they specialize in tank, healer, dps, etc, etc. So tell me this, have you played ToS or PoM? In fact, these two healers can sometimes do more dps than a mage, so how would you assess their role in a team? They are meant to heal, do CC, AND dps at the same time, thus this is not a typical role of a healer. The last time I checked healers are only suppose to heal and remove negative effects from the team. Each profession have multiple functions and they are not enlisted in their own category. The correct way to describe this is to say that the classes are imbalanced, cause there's no logical explaination on why a healer can do more damage than a mage.

 
Draccan  5/27/08 9:28:15 AM

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SWG pre cu/nge wanted!

Originally posted by terrant

 

Originally posted by Draccan

---Wall of text hits you for EXCRUTIATING damge! (999hp)-- 

/Draccan

 


Gonna get labeled as a fanboi for this, but I'd like to address some of your concerns...numbers to match your post.
Not a fanboy just a fan! Fanboys flame! ;)

 

1) Er....or it could be theey had it in, it wasn't working well, and they yanked it at the last minute due to bugs? That does happen you know.

2) You may be right about the niche game thing. Time will tell. It's not a WoW-killer, I'll tell you that. Doesn't stop it from being fun though.

3) They closed them? Uh...I'm on them now. Or did you just mean restricted? Lots of games do that. Lots of games also split the US and EU forums up. What hoorible purpose do you think they'd achieve by that anyway? Other than someone can't gripe at me in German.

I edited my post as it was unclear. Even SWG forums can be read by any1 and boy do they have stuff to hide!

4) Lack of communication is always annoying. As to the ring, do you REALLY expect it to do much? Too much of an edge and you'd have people raising Cain about it being unfair to those that couldn't afford CE.

I don't even have it equipped. But it is the principle. Really. Why do they HAVE to make it useless?

5) Find me a game where players don't find an exploit after beta, and things have to be pulled. I DARE you to say WoW, so I can laugh.

Sure but my point is that those things should have been tested for real in Beta!

6) This is very possible (And no I'm not a FC employee myself, although maybe that's the first thing they'd say...) Of course, I've seen some posts in these AoC forums bashing AoC and lauding VG that I SWEAR are Sony employees. It goes both ways,

I someone doubt that -  I think SOE gave up a long time ago supporting VG ;)

7) True..but again, it goes both ways. Anyone says anything honestly nice about the game and game and they get flamed.

Problem is that the player base could have affected the game if they dared unite sometimes and state what the want. I bet many of the people who flamed my posts on the official forum are now ones attacking it; just like I predicted months ago.

8) Again, hesitate to be labeled an FC employee for this but uh...it's true. Never seen a perfect launch. Hell, you shoulda seen Anarchy Online's! At least in AoC you don't take 15 minutes (literally) to load a zone, just to find out you spawned in a toxic waste river and died five minutes before you even could see.

I am sorry but you didn't read my point then. This game has many bugs that could have been found in testing. They didnt care to do that. Sure all mmos have bugs. Problem is this one has too many that shouldnt have been there, regardless what other mmos did. Even mmo gamers can expect the company to finish the game as much as humanly possible (not 100% bug free but as tested is reasonable!)

9) I hear you on the lack of level 40+ quests...annoying. I presume they didn't expect people to level so fast. As to the WoW clone statement...eh...everything's a WoW clone these days, and WoW itself was an clone of EQ, and so on...honestly there is no such thing as an original game. Just hope to put a spin on an old concept, which FC has.

More spin than novelty! For sure!

10) Also irritating. Hopefully will be fixed.

What about 11 - 12 -13. These are the essential points you know! :-p

14) Yeah, demo is broke. Which is why you have all those red-dressed clones in your pic. Too many people playing the FoTM class.

FoTM?

 

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Ephimero  5/27/08 9:28:38 AM

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Originally posted by Draccan

 

Originally posted by Hoobley

If you were to post this on the official forums a little more positively and assuming that everything you listed is factual, this would be a very nice reference point for the developers to get things on track and producing the game that many people want.

 

I heard rumours about others getting the ban stick and since I am gonna play at least for a couple of weeks I don't want to be banned..

   

Wise decission, mods in the forums are real pricks.

I agree with many of your points OP, disagree with some also, and Im wondering why you didn't include the one thats hitting me harder, the fedex feeling Im getting out of this game.

Ive been leveling through the last 6 levels with quests, all I have to do is walk from an extreme of hyboria to the other, just to talk to a NPC, and then go back to get my reward, which, many times, is a bit of copper, just cause the quest window shows 0xp in many quests that really give xp and Im not paying attention to that anymore.

Not saying all the quests are like that, but Im starting to miss Tortage a lot, the game is poorly designed after level 20. If you haven't stepped in those levels, compare the quests with the Redrick tasks in Tortage, mindless walking just to pick up something and go back, for 6 levels already. Plus the storyline has become dull, there are way better ways to explore the map, but being forced to go through 2 zones, 2 instances and then going back all the way to say "Your brother is fine, you shall not worry" and receive 3 copper and 45E, it's killing my experience completely.

Not to talk about the senseless pvp, but I already approached that in another thread.


ProfRed  5/27/08 9:29:03 AM

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Definitely check out this review: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/182459

I'm not posting it because in his final paragraph he ends up liking the game, but because he posted a factual unbiased review, and he didn't give his opinion until the final paragraph.  This kind of review will let people read and get what they want from the facts without any negative or positive undertones and let them pull from it what they need to know to decide on if the game is right or not, or to even outline some of the facts that people miss.

 
ZeGerman1942  5/27/08 9:30:28 AM

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appreciate your taking a look at your post and editing it - good to see things like that (and sorry if i came across as condescending or something, i was no trying to be, i am just tired of all the  bile hehe).

 

 

 
vmoped  5/27/08 9:38:21 AM

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Gamer fanboi. All games are good and/or great, in their own way! Stop da hate and go forth and play!

Originally posted by Xasapis

It would have been a lot easier to read if it was either smaller (more condensed) or used some of the features of these boards, like bold, caps, underlines, lines etc.

As for the fanboys bit, this forum is saturated by haters. Any happy thoughts generated by any sort of enthusiast is getting drawned by negativity of all sorts. If you feel good about playing a game you're a. an idiot that has no sense of quality or b. a victim of marketing and hype.

Some people just can't seem to be able to grasp that playing an MMO is a balance between the things loved and hated. And when the balance tips towards love, the bad things weight less. They are there of course. But they weight less.

I couldn't agree more with you Xasapis. To the OP: I think you did a good job including facts in your post and I personally do not mind your opinion being interjected throughout. Any competent reader can discern the facts from opinions in your post. You do point out alot of the flaws in the game (albeit you make some out to be worse than they really are imo; for example the itemisation), but in the end this game is pretty fun for alot of us. I hope you find the game you enjoy one day. Thank you for your comments, and Im sure that Funcom will likely address most of these points in their patches.

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weslubow  5/27/08 9:45:35 AM

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So the point of your thread was "Whaaaa!" ?

 
Zionnax  5/27/08 9:51:54 AM