Age of Conan

Originally posted by euangelion

As an engineer? If I saw a dollar on the street I'd ask around for who dropped it, in RL I have better ethics then most. However in a game I'll do what ever whenever although I don't like to cheat, I like a challege..  but if faced with an exploit where I stand a certain distance from a merchant and sell things and see the item is still in my inventory I would most likely try it again, it's a game after all.

For you its a (Game) but remember for the Developers, (Its a business)

Not a troll, just wanted to get people oppinion from MMORPG... shouldn't have even tried though with the crowd here. Not trying to promote exploiting, let people get away with it, or anything like that. I just think that banning people in the first few weeks of play is a poor idea on Funcoms part especially with the numerous exploits in the game. I've done a ton of betas and taken characters to level cap in 12 MMOs without exploits or ebaying... I like a challenge but I also always keep my mind on the fact that it's just a game created for entertainment purposes so it shouldn't be taken seriously.

I realize it's a business, I'm actually in a similar industry. However it's not very customer friendly to ban people for taking advantage of your mistakes... better to thank them for finding the bug and take the items that were a part of the bug.  However if the were playing just to make RL money off ebay with the exploits that's a different story.

Originally posted by euangelion

Not a troll, just wanted to get people oppinion from MMORPG... shouldn't have even tried though with the crowd here. Not trying to promote exploiting, let people get away with it, or anything like that. I just think that banning people in the first few weeks of play is a poor idea on Funcoms part especially with the numerous exploits in the game. I've done a ton of betas and taken characters to level cap in 12 MMOs without exploits or ebaying... I like a challenge but I also always keep my mind on the fact that it's just a game created for entertainment purposes so it shouldn't be taken seriously.

I agree with you if we lived in an Utopia where everyone worked together for the betterment of their community. If I found an exploit, I would not use it and I would report it. It sounds like you would do the same too and I commend that. However, many of those who exploited, did so on PVP server so they could gank anyone and everyone as fast as possible.

Funcom's position is that they have to come down really HARD on these players to prevent anyone else from doing so in the future. If they did less, it would be an OK to the community to exploit. Now people will be more careful and will think twice before they take advantage of an exploit because they know Funcom's serious about it.

EDIT: They found the bug but never reported it and took full advantage of it to get to level 80. Had they reported it and stopped using said exploit after the first few times, then sure. But they took full advantage and proved their intention to exploit fully and completely at any opportunity. In sum, they left Funcom with little choice.

Find an exploit, report it, no harm done, all is fine.

Find an exploit, NOT report it and abuse it so you gain an unfair advantage over other players. Not fine. Ciao. Byebye and good riddance.*shrug* It might be just a game, but they are ruining the game for others by doing that kind of thing. You want to allow that?

Agreed, if it was a few months after launch. But to do it in the first week or two... everything is still getting settled, they are still adjusting drops, xp, fixing bugs etc... not really the time in my mind. But oh well, I got your opinions, thanks guys.

I didn't bother to cast a vote on this thread because it is foolish to me. What have we come to where we make an agreement and then go out of our way to cheat and break our word to gain for ourselves. By God man you even have to waste our time with this post. Ban... and ban. It will give me great respect for Funcom to kick them out period. 

I can understand if they found an exploit and said wait...did that just happen. Then they tried it again and yes it DID happen. The honest and decent thing to do would be to report it. Taking advantage of it is low and pathetic. Feel happy for your guild that they didn't  get banned. I would have kicked them out.

The guild mates who did not partake I feel sorry for, but for the cheaters, the weak, the PvP fodder good riddance to your feaux success. You got what you deserved.

Next thing I know you will be telling me you are in Ebonlore. God I hoped Ewle curled up and died in a scary place when she was kicked out of Hate for being such a pathetic player. Not to mention for gaining fame for being publicly banned from Emarr. What a <fill in blank>. Sorry I started to rant. Old EQ days...

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Find an exploit, report it, no harm done, all is fine.

 

Find an exploit, NOT report it and abuse it so you gain an unfair advantage over other players. Not fine. Ciao. Byebye and good riddance.*shrug* It might be just a game, but they are ruining the game for others by doing that kind of thing. You want to allow that?

Exactly.

I would add to that it isn't "customer friendly" to allow exploiters to take advantage of hard-working and dedicated players who didn't use an exploit. No its not customer friendly for Funcom to ban these players but who would you rather have in game? Exploiters or customers who abide by the terms of service?

I've only read the original message so my answer is towards the OP. Yes, ban the offenders is the best course of action. Just because the exploit is there, doesn't mean that the offenders were justified to use it. No matter how you look at it, its a ban-able offence and the game will be better off without these people.

For all the "it's just a game" sentiments; they aren't being prosecuted by a real court, they're just being banned by customer service of the game. So no one, including Funcom is treating the situation like its any more "real" than it needs to be.

If the ones exploiting it were so lighthearted in commiting the act, why heavyhearted over the consequences? If casually exploiting was a minute thought and of no real malicious purpose or design, then their banning should be treated as a minute-thought as well. Fair enough, ain't it? 

Besides, I doubt the exploiters themselves can cite down to the exact copper exactly how much currency they reaped from an exploit. Why expect Funcom to show careful consideration to which items and what amount of gold was legitimately earned when the exploiters themselves didn't?