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Shannia  5/28/08 1:56:18 AM

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"We''re not making a game for Trekkies" Daron Stinnett, Perpetual Entertainment

OP, every hear of the old saying, "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is"?   Sorry, but they brought on themselves.

 

"I'll take MMO disasters for $50, Alex."

"This MMO release in 2008 lost half its player base in the first month after massive hype of non existent features"

"What is Age of Conan?" ...

"Correct, for $50, Ed2099"!

Mithios  5/28/08 1:56:59 AM

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All that it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing..."Edmund Burke"

I am in agreeance with those that feel that exploiting the game is cheating. It all boils down to uber guilds taking advantage of an unfair situation and then later using it to gain control of a games economy where it ends up costing 100 plat for a spiked club. And if you aren't in one those uber guilds later on when raid and epic gear come out, you aren't getting it because you can't afford thier prices and you aren't in thier guild.

Now this might be an extreme look at things or even slightly dramatic, but in the end, you add enough "little" exploits up and super guilds with massive numbers, you end up with economical domination in a virtual world where everyone pays the same monthly fee and deserves the same chances and opportunities to have fun.

A tiny mind is a tidy mind...

Gigget  5/28/08 1:57:54 AM

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Hell yes they should be hit hard.  They should have their accounts banned and ip addresses as well.  Cheaters never win, and they never stop.  Once a cheater, always a cheater.  If you have to cheat in a game or "take advantage" (same damn thing as cheating), then you fail and should not complain.

 
j_jonson  5/28/08 1:59:40 AM

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meeeehh!

Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end.

Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. 

If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.  

MMEEEEEHHHHH!!!

Gigget  5/28/08 2:02:18 AM

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Originally posted by j_jonson

Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end.

Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. 

If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.  

what are you talking about?  There is a difference from finding and reporting than finding and taking advantage.  Funcom is not the first.  Lineage 2 banned thousands of accounts for exploits.  Hundreds within the first month.

 
grunty  5/28/08 2:02:30 AM

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I''ll snatch you bald-headed!

Originally posted by kalrar

jesus fucking christ some of you people need to get the fuck outside and get some air.  Funcom releases a halfassed finished product people trip onto finding an exploit and for whatever reason you believe they should be banned without question... Fucking hipocracy at it's best. Let them sort it out on a per account basis. Funcom should own up to the fact they're charging people real life money for unfished goods. They remind me of fuckin Nazi's and most of you fuckers are condoning it. Let's see what the game looks like when all the gold sellers set up shop..which one of you fucks is gonna keep tabs then? Never mind the fact that alot of people can't access the god damned forums to say boo shit..let alone get any feedback from someone. Oust the gold sellers, probation is what exploiters deserve less they're proven to be repetitive then sure ban em. but you people with your holier then thow attitude sicken the fuck outta me. How about funcom put so much effort into clearing up the fucked up aspects of the game? How about funcom open up the lines of communication as opposed to sensorshiplike nazi fuckwads?

Guess what? FunCom just did that by this decision.  Somebody fucked up the game.  They're fixing it.

 
Fried_Yoda  5/28/08 2:06:54 AM

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All good things come to an end, but the road goes ever on.

Dear OP,

Taking advantage of is still exploiting and cheating. It's not something you do, even if it accessible. You should quit being an engineer and start being a defense lawyer for rapists. I can see it now...

"Your honor, she was walking alone in a dark alley. She obviously provoked my client into raping her. He did nothing wrong, he followed all the system's rules. He walked, he approached her, bound her, gagged her, and so on. Reality works in a way that these actions are fair game. And honestly, I don't think rape is the correct term since she was openly available to the act. Surprise sex is more like it."

QQ OP

 
Shannia  5/28/08 2:10:08 AM

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Originally posted by j_jonson

Exploit means working AROUND game mechanics. Meaning, you can magically duplicate items by performing a sequence of events that leads to that end.

Finding broken game mechanics and using them is not using an exploit or cheating. Meaning, you find a quest that can be repeated that is not normally repeatable and you do it a couple times or as many as you want. 

If AoC is banning people because of their broken mechanics this will be THE FIRST MMO to do so. Not one single MMO before this has banned people for doing such things. They just hotfix the situation and move on, cause they know its their fault.  

GREAT!  I'm glad to see Funcom making people pay for their actions.  Regardless if they exploited or went around game mechanics, they KNEW what they were doing.  You can't tell me these people thought Funcom put a repeatable quest in to give people an avenue to get from 35 to 80 in two days do you?  Now, if they'd open Griefer's Prison tomorrow and deal with gankers and griefers with just a heavy of a hand, they would be two for two and deserve my business regardless of missing content or not!

 

"I'll take MMO disasters for $50, Alex."

"This MMO release in 2008 lost half its player base in the first month after massive hype of non existent features"

"What is Age of Conan?" ...

"Correct, for $50, Ed2099"!

Galadourn  5/28/08 2:13:20 AM

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Originally posted by sunlion69

 

Originally posted by Galadourn

people should be banned, provided they were aware it was a bug they were exploiting. For some bugs this may be obvious, for others more obscure however...

 

Don't kid yourself.

 

If I am getting an amount of gold that doesn't quite fit with what I have experienced before...I know it is an exploit. Problem is now we have the television market upon our shoulders. I want it I want it now. Sneak steal get it anyway you can. Sad state of affairs. If you are here you know if you are cheating.

Let me ask you this.......if you didn't find an abscene amount of gold or experience would you go back and kill ten flibbers again. I would hope not move on. Your argument has no value here.

 

Just think...in a few weeks all the schools would have been let out and even more players. Funcom has released to make the most money.....I just hope for me...after following game for a cuple years...don't let me down.

well, I was simply making a general comment on bugs and how obvious they are. I agree that for this one in particular, there is no denying everyone knew what they were doing...