WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Tierce

Originally posted by altairzq

Yes instead of giving a good forum for your players that have bought your game, turn your back to them and wish them good luck somewhere else with a smile. This is very professional and shows a great care for your community. And some players are even happy with the decission and accept they have no right for an official forum! They will soon accept they are so crappy they have no right for technical support anymore, wow they will be drooling in pleasure!

I guess I just don't see why there needs to be a right to an official forum and also feel that the perceived right to such a forum has been abused to a point where these forums can no longer serve their intended purpose.  I intially saw this decision by Mythic as you do, turning their back on the community, but now I'm starting to see how they were just doing what would be best for the community by not bogging it down with a heavily trolled official forum that would be too great for them to successfully moderate.  This did not become apparent to me until I tried using the Age of Conan forums.  They are the biggest cluster frack of trolls I have ever seen for a major released MMORPG.  There are just too many that have taken the right to official forums for granted and ruined them for the people who actually used them for their intended purpose.  It's kindof like welfare, although I think official gaming forums had a better original design than the welfare system, but that is a whole other discussion. 

Well... I don't see the reason to defend the lack of official forums!

I guess there's little to no point bitching and moaning and / or trolling on a fansite's forums.

I wasn't impressed at first when there were no official forums, but Mythic do a very nice job of keeping their potential customers informed about the game and it's features through many different types of media.

I have no doubt that there are beta forums though and that's all the feedback they need right now, informed feedback.

AoC took quite some heat because the forums were not open to non subscribers for a while (not 100% sure if they are open now, I didn't bother with them). Most of the accusations were revolving around Funcom having to hide something, thus why they kept the forums "private".

WAR on the other hand is going towards a no-forums-at-all solution and people are applauding for that choice?

Can you spot the inconsistency?

Originally posted by Xasapis

AoC took quite some heat because the forums were not open to non subscribers for a while (not 100% sure if they are open now, I didn't bother with them). Most of the accusations were revolving around Funcom having to hide something, thus why they kept the forums "private".

WAR on the other hand is going towards a no-forums-at-all solution and people are applauding for that choice?

Can you spot the inconsistency?

 

I don't know this for a fact, but I would guess they will have official forums after release. (I'm assuming we're talking about pre-release official forums in this thread)

Can anyone clarify whether I'm right or wrong?

This is what non-paying customers see when going to the AoC boards, at the time of this post they are still not accessible in a read only format to potential customers;

Originally posted by Xasapis

AoC took quite some heat because the forums were not open to non subscribers for a while (not 100% sure if they are open now, I didn't bother with them). Most of the accusations were revolving around Funcom having to hide something, thus why they kept the forums "private".

WAR on the other hand is going towards a no-forums-at-all solution and people are applauding for that choice?

Can you spot the inconsistency?

 

Mythic has nothing to hide, but Funcom however gave players a reason to be suspicious.

From an outsider's point of view, Mythic has more to hide by depriving the players from the option. This is why I find it inconsistent. I just mention Funcom because the discussion is more recent. It could have been SWG forums or any other forums closed to non-subscribers, temporary or permanently.

Originally posted by Xasapis

From an outsider's point of view, Mythic has more to hide by depriving the players from the option. This is why I find it inconsistent. I just mention Funcom because the discussion is more recent. It could have been SWG forums or any other forums closed to non-subscribers, temporary or permanently.

Mythic are telling their potential customers the information they want to. They are using a different medium other than forums to do this.

AoC making their post-release forums accessible only to paying customers excludes potential customers from reading about the state of the game from existing customers and making an informed decision. People do not pay 50 bucks to troll and misinform, those are the opinions of Funcom's paying customers. I'm not asking to be able to post there, but make them read only for everyone.

Warhammer is not released yet and beta testers are under the NDA so what else is there to be gained from pre-release forums other than fanboi / troll speculation?

This is coming from someone who thought no official pre-release forums was a failing on Mythic's part for a long time. My outlook on things have changed quite a lot in the past year.

Originally posted by Hoobley

 

Originally posted by Xasapis

AoC took quite some heat because the forums were not open to non subscribers for a while (not 100% sure if they are open now, I didn't bother with them). Most of the accusations were revolving around Funcom having to hide something, thus why they kept the forums "private".

WAR on the other hand is going towards a no-forums-at-all solution and people are applauding for that choice?

Can you spot the inconsistency?

 

I don't know this for a fact, but I would guess they will have official forums after release. (I'm assuming we're talking about pre-release official forums in this thread)

 

 

Can anyone clarify whether I'm right or wrong?

You're wrong.

WAR will not have official forums. EVER.

Edit: Other than Beta-forums, obviously.

/www.warhammeralliance.com Devs post there, moderated wonderfully, in fact if you dont say enough of what is needed they complain.

 Wow Oboards, I get topics deleted that are constructive while there are 300+ topics going by trolls.

 anyways we need one good reason for mythic not to have forums.... lets see...

 Spend my sub fee on forums or content... hmm, good for nothing forums or content. This is going to be hard.