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jzuska  5/28/08 10:52:51 AM

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10 man Arthas? No thanks.

OMG Legendary Bow! Rogue Weapon!

This is a bad game. But it's not the worst i've ever played. Vanguard, Eq2, eq1, LOTORO, AOC, WOW, DAOC. In order from failure to made of win.


checkthis500  5/28/08 11:02:59 AM

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Originally posted by Manitou76

 

Originally posted by heerobya

I absolutely love these types of comments:

"If you aren't enjoying the game you OBVIOUSLY should wait a few months before you purchase so they can hammer out the bugs."

hahhahahahahaha

OR

Just making a f-ing game that is polished and playable for the first few months.

DUH?!?

Dude this is like with any kind of mass media product. You wont see all the problems before it's used by a magnitude or users. It's like this with cars, hardware and also games.

 

If you were to do a proper simulation, you'd need a million testers, and that's not really a realistic scenario....


Just had to point out the absurdity of your post.  So you're saying that a car has problems after it first comes out until it's tested by tons of people?  I think you should leave cars out of your analogy altogether.

A proper simulation wouldn't be a million testers.  A proper simulation would be the amount of players to load a server to near maximum.  Since each server only has 4-5k players at the most (not sure what the actual numbers are) they've had the proper simulation to test everything out.

The fact that basic things are broken, and only levels 1-20 are fully fleshed out shows that they didn't have enough concern for the game as a whole, but only made the beginning shiny.  We're not talking about glitches and bugs.  We're talking about content. 

If the second half of the levels are lacking content, that's a huuuuge mistake.  There should have been teams working on each of the areas so that when the game released, each area would be completely fleshed out.

I believe they just needed more time, or they squandered the time that they had.

The fact that the official forums are only available to paying customers and (hear-say follows) there's a stickied thread saying "Don't let reading the forums get you down" shows that they aren't in as good a spot as they wanted, and possibly even shows that the game is very much unfinished.

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Mapleshade  5/28/08 11:16:52 AM

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Please don't spread misinformation.  LoTR was smooth as glass when released, and EQ2 in its current state has very few bugs.  I've been on the sideline quietly rooting for AoC, but the fact of the matter is the launch is premature, and can certainly use a few more months of development.

 

I'm not going to list all the issues that AoC currently has as that's been posted here and on the official forums.  The core mechanics are there, meaning combat and most of the questlines.  However, basic components such as crafting, gathering, loot, economy, grouping tools, inventory, skills function and descriptions, etc... are inadequate and can use more development.

 

taken individually none of the issues are game breaking.  But, there are just currently too many of these issues to make the game has any real feel to it post lvl. 40.

 

My 2 cents.  Agree or disagree, this is just my experience with the game in its current state.

 

*Edit: the misinformation is a response to  Manitou76's comment on LoTR and EQ2's current state.

 
Karnir  5/28/08 11:20:20 AM

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Originally posted by Manitou76

They could make the inventory a little larger, but on the other hand, why woudl you wanna pick up all kinds of items without any significant value. If you stick to green items and above, it will last quite long.

Also normally resources and quest items are stored in the normal inventory. That's not the case in this game.


QFT, at least half the loot is only worth a few tin and not worth the bag space, it just forces you to make concessions.  The problem the limited inventory space is causing me is that I'm a cheap, greedy bastard who can't pass up little golden bags.

Stopping to pick through everyone's discarded loot slows my roll quite a bit, but due to my garbage picking my 32 Conq is wearing full heavy armor and has over 30 silver in the bank.  It's funny how many times I find money in the bags, I guess once people fill their inventory they don't even open the bags to get the coin out. 

 
strongarm99  5/28/08 11:30:19 AM

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Bugs are to be expected, the rest of the review is pretty spot-on, some will like it, some will not....

If your really like GW, this one is right up your alley (not saying that's bad, GW is no slouch). 

If you're more into sandbox, I would steer clear for now...

 
neuronomad  5/28/08 11:34:54 AM

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My Aggro brings all the mobs to the yard.

I canceled my subscription yesterday.   I only got 3 charcters to the mid 20s but still it was enough for me to know that I didn't want to keep playing.   Even on a decent video card 8700 (512Mb) and 4Gb system Ram I still found that I would have to run the game in the lowest settings if I wanted FPS over 10.  And for a game that is not auto attack low FPS can be a killer.

But honestly there just wasn't a lot new to me in the game.   Sure I had to watch for mob shielding and adjust my attacks for them.  But really all that did was make the game a bit harder.   I couldn't find a grouping as everyone just wanted to solo everything which  you can do easily enough.

For me I am now laying my hopes on WAR or SGW, else I am just going to stick with single player RPGs.  Hell Mass Effect comes out today and I am sure it will keep me tied up for a bit.

 

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vesavius  5/28/08 12:03:23 PM

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Originally posted by neuronomad

I canceled my subscription yesterday.   I only got 3 charcters to the mid 20s but still it was enough for me to know that I didn't want to keep playing.   Even on a decent video card 8700 (512Mb) and 4Gb system Ram I still found that I would have to run the game in the lowest settings if I wanted FPS over 10.  And for a game that is not auto attack low FPS can be a killer.

But honestly there just wasn't a lot new to me in the game.   Sure I had to watch for mob shielding and adjust my attacks for them.  But really all that did was make the game a bit harder.   I couldn't find a grouping as everyone just wanted to solo everything which  you can do easily enough.

For me I am now laying my hopes on WAR or SGW, else I am just going to stick with single player RPGs.  Hell Mass Effect comes out today and I am sure it will keep me tied up for a bit.

 

Funny, cause I am running on a very similar rig.

I get 30-40fps in shared world, 20-30 in cities, and 100+ in instances.... I have no idea what you are doing wrong.

Group quests start at 40, but I guess you havent ever got there so you wouldnt know.

 

 
VultureSkull  5/28/08 12:35:26 PM

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Originally posted by jzuska

This is a bad game. But it's not the worst i've ever played. Vanguard, Eq2, eq1, LOTORO, AOC, WOW, DAOC. In order from failure to made of win.


Or in other words

This is a good game. But it's not the best i've ever played. DAOC, WOW, AOC, LOTORO, eq1, Eq2 ,Vanguard. In order from win to made of failure.

 

 

I will be dammed if i go back to WoW so soon, for those of you who are quiting, where are you going to go!?!

Vulture Skull

WAR
AOC - I tired to like it :-(
EVE
VG
D&D retired(early)
WOW - back for WOTLK
HGL(non-starter)
LOTROL- retired
EQ2- retired
GW- retired
PS- retired

LuckyCurse  5/28/08 12:57:40 PM

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Originally posted by VultureSkull

 


I will be dammed if i go back to WoW so soon, for those of you who are quiting, where are you going to go!?!


I came from no where, I'll be happy to go back there if this game fails for me.  I don't NEED a game.  I have other things to do.  I hope others can handle it in the same fashion.

 

- LC

 
neuronomad  5/28/08 1:19:07 PM