General Discussion

First of all let me say that I already did speak with my wallet and am not playing AoC, second, the previous fact does in no way invalidate my opinion of the game.

I find it amusing that the game is less then a month old and we are looking as a revamp of the PvP system already. Wasn't this one of the big pointswith AoC, all the PvPers were gonna go there?

I guess it wasn't so great. . .

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by streea

 

Originally posted by Leucent

In otherwords, we thank you for paying for beta because we simply weren t ready for release.

Oh just stop it already. WoW still has bug fixes and updates, and EVERY MMO will too. And you know how buggy SWG was the first few months? Yet people still loved to play it.

 

If you have a problem with playing a game that will continuously have fixes and patches, go play a boardgame. Otherwise, stop moaning.

Should have been more clear i was commenting on the content missing and parts of the game no one got to see to realize it s NOT IN GAME YET.

I like the game and had fun playing in the beta but even I think they should have waited.  They even said in the letter that their are major issues that need to be fixed, this shouldn't have happened.  I won't pay for the for another few months because I know their are issues from playing in the beta and from what I read.  I have no doubt that Funcom will fix them and part of me doesn't blame them for brining it out when they did, it costs money every day they would have delayed the game.  BUT its a double edged sword and they took a chance.  Bring out the game with major issues and take a chance that people are going to get angry and leave and have a bitter taste in their mouth or delay the game, loose money and still have people pissed off because they didn't bring the game out on time.  A dev is damned if they do and damned if they don't...but with issues that AoC has and as major as they are maybe it would have been best to wait.  When the game has most of its kinks worked out (no game has no kinks), this game will be a lot of fun and worth the money.  Right now...for me anyways...its not worth a monthly fee.  I'll give it time and then I'll pay.

Good post, MindTrigger.  All of the points you made are valid, and even accurate. Though on one point I disagree: most MMOs HAVE had glaring bugs at launch, not just AoC.

It was merely your "incomplete" statement I was taking issue with, simply because there are so many thoughtless critics out there that don't really think out their reasoning.  If you looked at the last line of my post, the "adjustment" to your comment, you would have seen that that comment is in agreement with your analysis.

I agree that the game could have used some more polish time, while acknowledging the need to get the major issues (namely, core content that was advertised) completed before they launched.  That said, I think AoC is a great game, and am thoroughly enjoying my experience.  Though, part of this is probably because I have neither started the crafting nor the sieging.

I do completely agree with you that the crafting system sucks and is in desperate need of some attention, however.

Jon

Wooohooo. about time. pvp levels!

Originally posted by Shadow786

 US release. Remember Captain Placeholder?

no but he sounds like an AWESOME guy.

Originally posted by dsebutchr

I would like to suggest that all the whiners do EXACTLY what they say and leave the game.  All of you who are threatening to leave...please do so.

The rest of us are having a really good time and I'm all for not having to listen to you any more.

Thanks for playing. 

Sometime, a few months out, the general consensus begins to form that the game was in fact a disappointment.  People coalesce around this fundamental truth-a select few dig in and stick with the game-the game either lives or dies based on the companies ability to support a diminished population.  We the game community all migrate to the latest greatest, campaign for our beta keys, watch video's and screen caps...and the circle of mmo life continues...

Originally posted by Spellshaper

 PVE NPC cities and attacks either arent in

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About me: I am casual player, so I didnt reach high lvl content yet. I love the game, the lore, the system, all of it. So my only problem on higher lvls can be content (including sieges and everything mentioned above). And if you ask me if you should by this game, still answer is YES because I still beleive in Funcom (at least for now).

Unless I have a terrible memory, those where canceled completely. I dont think all guilds liked be constantly attacked by random npcs whilst trying to thier there shopping/crafting/sociallising/roleplaying/cyb0ring etc.

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Originally posted by Consensus
Unless I have a terrible memory, those where canceled completely.

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Originally posted by deguildeving

In LOTRO beta we were balancing classes far before release.  (and yet, in the first year, most of the classes had to be rebalanced, and that's w/o any real considerations for PVP) We were polishing up the completed crafting sytem.  (which has undergone revisions and uprgrades since launch) Even finalizing the initial higher level areas months before it went live.  (and they released a brand new area that wasn't finished within 6 weeks of launch, and have continued to do so since)

Don't get me wrong, I thought LotRO had a good beta/launch, but just pointing out it was far from "finished"

Change is inevitable in MMO's.