Darkfall

The majority of Darkfall’s official forum community is a Frankenstein abomination in my opinion, Aventurine have created a monster after years of mismanagement and they are going to have to deal with it one way or another eventually.

Originally posted by Polarization

The majority of Darkfall’s official forum community is a Frankenstein abomination in my opinion, Aventurine have created a monster after years of mismanagement and they are going to have to deal with it one way or another eventually.

I stopped my interaction in 2005 because in my opinion it was no longer productive to be an active participant any longer, and I would argue the developers themselves share my attitude considering the relative stark absence of their presence in comparison to earlier times in the game’s development.

In my opinion the only people who defend the behavior of the majority of the community are the people who still participate in said community, so they obviously are not objective and are part of the problem and not the solution.

Good post in many parts with strongest  part your dedication to said community prior to 2005.

However you mistake, being objective with "shoot the developers". According to your opinion that should be the type of  "objectivity",  your favorite choice after 2005, for the community to apply. Quaint , you leave, community lost objectivity  hehe..but that just as side note.

Maybe extensive 'I hope this game is released soon' threads are appropriate then for to establish said "objectivity".

Statements about how the "community" reacted poorly to you ONCE when you asked a stupid (because you are lazy) question makea you look like one of the many people who would rather see DF fail. 

Also anyone who thinks gankers will be huge in DF is silly and does not know much about the game. 

1.) You cannot see the persons level/skill/name

Most gankers/griefers will ONLY fight if they 100% know they can win.  In every other game (AoC, WoW, ect..) you know if you have a good chance aginst a person or not, but no so in darkfall.  Wepons and armor will look more realistic also you you will be "blind" when trying to attack someone.  (ie gankers and griefers are cowards and they will not gank random people becuase attacking anyone could have huge ramifications, death for yourself, major guilds/well liked people become your enemies ect..)

Bah dont want to finish this now ill make a seperate post and enumerate my thoughts.

Originally posted by strongaxe

Also anyone who thinks gankers will be huge in DF is silly and does not know much about the game. 

 

1.) You cannot see the persons level/skill/name

Most gankers/griefers will ONLY fight if they 100% know they can win.  In every other game (AoC, WoW, ect..) you know if you have a good chance aginst a person or not, but no so in darkfall.  Wepons and armor will look more realistic also you you will be "blind" when trying to attack someone.  (ie gankers and griefers are cowards and they will not gank random people becuase attacking anyone could have huge ramifications, death for yourself, major guilds/well liked people become your enemies ect..)

 

And gankers will have an alt account so they don't have to worry about reputation

Originally posted by ghoul31

 

 

Originally posted by strongaxe

Also anyone who thinks gankers will be huge in DF is silly and does not know much about the game. 

 

1.) You cannot see the persons level/skill/name

Most gankers/griefers will ONLY fight if they 100% know they can win.  In every other game (AoC, WoW, ect..) you know if you have a good chance aginst a person or not, but no so in darkfall.  Wepons and armor will look more realistic also you you will be "blind" when trying to attack someone.  (ie gankers and griefers are cowards and they will not gank random people becuase attacking anyone could have huge ramifications, death for yourself, major guilds/well liked people become your enemies ect..)

 

This is wrong. Gankers travel in large groups, and attack people 5 on 1. So not knowing the other persons level won't make any difference

 

And gankers will have an alt account so they don't have to worry about reputation

 

 

 

 

I agree... some people will have a second account just for being PKs.   

Btw, the reason Darkfall's forums are crap is because the intelligent members always end up getting banned when they get mad about the broken promises and lies.  The first major cull was in 2004, most of the active original community members were banned in 2004 and 2005.  That's also why they got rid of user registration dates and post counts, because people get weirded out and bail if they see all the veteran members of a forum are being banned and it's only all noobs that are left there, especially when it is an official community for a game in development.  For about a year every month or so someone at the forum would show up with registration from 2001 and tell all the lies the devs had told, then the noobs on the forum would be like, "OMG, wats, izzit truues????" and then the veteran community member would get banned, lol. 

In terms of the sociology of Internet communities, Darkfall is a really weird and interesting example.  It shows you how easy it is for the weak minded to be manipulated, and this is how cult leaders arise everywhere and get a bunch of retards to let them rape their children and go kill people....  Weak minded people are so strange, it is really hard to understand what is wrong with them, but Darkfall is a case study in that, just with some very minor and obvious psychological manipulations like promise people you will create the "ultimate" game, and then no matter what you do there will be this core of mentally deficient people who love you just for the promise and will be happy even to die for you.....  strange, indeed.

Anyway, the Darkfall community originally was really awesome, it was filled with people with big ideas and dreams about the future of MMORPGs, a lot of really smart folks who wanted to see a game with real player freedom to create a new paradigm in video games.... but all those guys got banned a long time ago for speaking the truth, lol.

Anyway, I followed Darkfall since 2001, but it has been obvious since 2005 [if you had followed it] at the latest that there was no game.  Darkfall is some kind of scam.  I think it started out as a real game project, but somewhere along they found a way to milk it for money and they found out they couldn't make a game, and since then they've just been trying to keep the status quo alive and milk it as long as possible...  That's the best guess of anyone who followed the game closely from the early days. 

That forum community used to be cool, though.  It's sad what happened to it.

Give this man a Medal.

Well actually i am still hoping that DFO will be released some day.

But i try not to have too much hopes, that's what i did for Horizons (sounded cool but got horrible) or other games which never made it to release.

What i don't like on DFO community in official Forums is... SPAM! Everything get's spammed badly. If a new member asks a simple question which could be answered with 1 sentence they just jump this thread, post "read the FAQ" or "use search" and start spamming. Everything.

Sometims i am actually surprised that some threads don't get spammed that much, but the mass is spam

Yes, clearly Darkfall is a scam. No doubt! But wait... I'm a little bit confused here... If it's a scam then.... What are they scamming people of? Cookies and milk? Scam involves one party jacking another party's money. Did they take money from any of you? Did they set pre-orders or pre-subscription? Did they sell you Darkfall Underwear and never delievered it? What is it then?

What! Maybe Aventurine is scamming some investors? But.... Who? Isn't Aventurine a well established and respected Defense Contracting Company developing Simulator Systems for Governments and Military with a multimillion dollar budget at hand? It is! Oh geee.... Another bum in the Scam theory... I'm so damn dissappointed! ;)

http://www.asdsource.com/source_detail_small/2882/Aventurine_SA.htm

Damn those Aventurine Scammers! They are Scamming us of [INSTER YOUR SILLY IMAGINATIONS HERE]!!!

Oh and obviously we are dealing with inexperienced and out of garage developers! I mean, how much experience in programming can have people who develop War Simulating Systems, Command Control Systems and Geographic Information Systems for Militaries? Silly newb amateur programers!

Oh, and look at that. How would any professional banker would dare to provide funds to that silly group of amateurs we are speaking of. That damn Athens-based Proton Investment Bank SA of Greece provided Aventurine with a 20 million euro convertible bond. I mean, we are CLEARLY dealing with a Vaporware here, so why would anyone with a right mind, especially a world wide recognized and respected Investment Bank, do such a thing? That's just sooooo silly. Clearly those bankers there are up for a big disappointment. I guess they didn't care to professionally check and inspect the seriousness, or as WE of right mind would say lack of seriousness, of this project.

AMMM I RIGHT GUYYZZZ!!! DARKFALLLZZ IS A VAPORWAREZ! Silly amateur Military contractors and silly professional Investment Bankers! WHADDA BUNCH OF NEWBZ, LAWLZ.

:)