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Dravok  6/11/08 9:23:11 AM

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So do you think if I wait til say mid July to August to buy the regular or collector's edition of AoC and try it out would be ok?

 
Zhqrxt  6/11/08 9:26:06 AM

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The game isnt finish by a longshot. But u can se it like this; if you pay for the box and a montlhy fee you are allowed to Beta test a playable version. And u can follow the progress from patch to patch. It defenatelys deals with traditionally marketing thinking though. In competetions with Warhammer and Aion - if theese games actually are 1.0 versions when released, i dont think AOC would have had much of a chance to compeete. I will prolly play AOC untill one of those titles, or WoTLK is out. Then i have this small hope that either Warhammer or Aion actually live up to the whole "next gen MMO, 4-fucking- years after vanillia WoW" state, that we should expect the MMo type of games to have achieved. I mean; isnt todays computers real powerhouses compared to early 2k ones??

Honestly, if i should advise a complely MMORPG virgin in buying either World of Warcaft or Age of conan, there would be absolutely no doubt which game i would recomend. Go buy the game developed in the late 90`s!

 

 

 
Ghost12  6/11/08 9:54:27 AM

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Unless your a die hard MMO fan and you are dying to get to play a AAA MMO, I think the smartest thing to do is wait. You know what? Id love to play AoC, but I dont feel like popping 50 bucks out of my pocket, thats alot of dough for something I may never pick up again.

After watching videos and doing some research on the state of the game; AoC is like many other MMO's at launch; plagued with bugs, missing content, unbalanced classes etc. However, many casuals can look past this fact and still have fun in the game. Hell you can have fun up until level 40ish, so I hear, until you have to start "looking for quests". Highly instanced - imagine guild wars with larger zones and filled with people.

No endgame content? Thats probably the biggest flaw and really a shame on you, Funcom.

But some more casual people are able to look past the flaws and simply have fun. FFA PvP is a blast and we havent seen that from a AAA developer in a long time. Personally, I could probably look past the flaws since Im more of a solo'r not a guildy.

So it all comes down to this: If your on the fence, wait 4 or 5 months for Funcom to do their thing. Funcom may have released an MMO that should have had a couple more months of beta testing, so let the masses test the game and Funcom to release the rest of the content.

The beauty of this is the fact that in waiting these 4 or 5 months, WAR is coming right around the corner and I doubt they will push it back. WAR is heading into Public closed beta which is one of the last stages of game development. We should probably see a release in the fall or Chrismas. By that point, AoC should have fixed most of its problems for you to make an accurate judgement of which game you should buy. Plus the buddy keys would be out as well.

So I would say, wait until fall-winter time of this year before you go upgrading your computer to play this game. Dont worry, Conan is still gonna be there :)

 
Somnulus  6/11/08 10:08:28 AM

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Originally posted by Gazenthia

Originally posted by bjornarg


As I said before, very few players have issues that make the game unplayable.



Female characters physically attack 30-36% slower than male characters. It hasn't been officially noticed yet, they are only looking at female assassins right now.

3850 ATI cards are yielding 7-27 FPS still

Looking at socketed items crashes the game

Massive class imbalances, and I mean MASSIVE

Player made cities are pointless

etc etc
There is a lot more work to be done yet. I would suggest you keep waiting.


Haven't noticed females attacking slower.... had two females from a guild working as a team on Stormrage (FFA PvP), level 20s, and they were double-teaming and ganking 25-29s left and right. So apparently either they knew what they were doing or they haven't noticed the slowdown either.

Ran the game first on two HD3650 ATI cards in Crossfire and it ran just fine, averaging about 26-32 fps on medium to high custom settings.

My current card is a single HD3870 x2 and I'm averaging 38-56 fps, jumping into the 70-90 range in less congested areas on maximum settings with some tweaks above the default max.

Many PC gamers for some reason simply can't seem to reconcile themselves to the fact that you actually need to do some tweaking to get the best combination of performance and visuals. They just throw on the medium setting and complain when performance is less than expected.

Sometimes it's just one or two settings that make all the difference; reduce the amount of foliage, limit the number of shadows, reduce your view distance for landscape, remove grass, etc. All of these minor tweaks still yield excellent visuals in AoC and improve your performance.

Also, some people think that just because their video card supports a certain level of shading that it should do so under all circumstances flawlessly. Just because your card manufacturer states that X card supports Shader Model 3, that doesn't mean that you will get the same performance on every single game where you use Shader Model 3.

Tweaks... for a PC gamer, it's de rigeur.

For class imbalance, about the only real complaint I have so far is the same complaint I had in DAoC and just about any other MMORPG that features PvP; stuns, mezzes and holds.

The maxim should really be all or nothing in this area. If you plan on giving stuns, mezzes and holds to one class, you should just plan on giving them to every class. That way, the

Haven't had any involvement with player cities, so I can't really comment, nor with socketed items. So I'll take the player's word for it who have had experience in those areas.

Overall, the game has played smoothly from the moment I installed it to the current date. The quests are interesting and playing on a FFA PvP server really enhances the feeling of danger and excitement, particularly when you have those quests that require a lot of travel.

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Nadia  6/11/08 10:14:18 AM

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Originally posted by Ghost12

No endgame content? Thats probably the biggest flaw

Funcom lacks midgame 50+ content

 

there is endgame content

people are already raiding - as you can see from pics in this link

conanvault.ign.com/View.php

 

Funcoms statement on endgame content

forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php

we have raid dungeons in our game with loot to match the effort. Kyllikki’s Crypt, Yakhmar’s Cave and The Dragon’s Lair are all awaiting visitors.  After that, when you feel ready, the massive Black Ring Citadel bids you welcome.

 
Terranah  6/11/08 10:48:28 AM

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Originally posted by ManiaCCC
Originally posted by Terranah

Originally posted by Gazenthia
Originally posted by bjornarg

 

As I said before, very few players have issues that make the game unplayable.

Female characters physically attack 30-36% slower than male characters. It hasn't been officially noticed yet, they are only looking at female assassins right now.

 

Women tend to have less upper body strength than men, therefore a 30% slower attack speed is realistic.  Just be glad female characters don't fall when running from mobs, although this might make things more suspenseful.

3850 ATI cards are yielding 7-27 FPS still

 

Buy Nvidia card, problem solved.



Looking at socketed items crashes the game

 

If it crashes when looking at it, don't look at it, problem solved.

Massive class imbalances, and I mean MASSIVE

 

Again, this is gritty realism that I really enjoy. In real life if you have an assault rifle you have clear advantage over a guy with brass knuckles.  I'm tired of 'fantasy' games where everything attempts to be equal.  In real life some people can pummel you because they have a clear advantage, whether it is size, weapon, or just plain meanness.

Player made cities are pointless

 

Disagree.  They add variety to the landscape. 

etc etc

 

Disagree, disagree.

There is a lot more work to be done yet. I would suggest you keep waiting.

 

I would suggest a purchase using credit card.  Buy now pay later, same difference.

 


I really hope you are joking O_o.. I don't belive someone dumb like this can exists.


Intelligence is relevant so stop being a pessimist.  I can be this dumb and even dumber depending on any number of factors, not the least which being AOC.

 
laresloci  6/11/08 10:56:30 AM

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Originally posted by Nadia

if you are waiting for Funcom to fix bugs

-- they've been fixing them weekly but like all mmos thats a neverending process

 

Like the "Never Ending Story..."   Frankly, I am waiting. Give it a year or so...see what happens. Then I'll have a newer computer too.

 
taus01  6/11/08 11:55:49 AM

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Originally posted by Cryptor

 

They fixed the most urgent things already, everything that is left is minor crap.  Come in ;)

 

Urgent things like adding a level up sound?

How about non working guild cities and buildings.

A bug that destroys all money/items when crafting city buildings?

The game crashing if you mouse over an armor/weapon that you have put in a crafted gem?

Crafted items beeing useless or crafting quests not working or need you to log out after every craft?

Party bugs where you can not invite people, not summon them to your instance if they are in a party but in a different instance (usually one of 10 instances)

{...}

 

I could continue with more but for me the game is dead and i have canceled my subscription already. Content is repetitive and shallow. It has ZERO replay value with a different character as you play the same linear 20 levels and then you do the same Quests again afterwards.

This is a glorified single player game with online functionality that is bugged beyond repair and a virtually non existing crafting system.

 

Good luck,

KJ

 
Gnazon  6/11/08 11:57:53 AM