General Discussion

Originally posted by RedwoodSap

 

Originally posted by DeadlyMage

people moan and want all games to be f2p.

but it will never work. if you have ever played a f2p and dont want to pay you have no chance of getting anywhere in the game.

the game is so overpwerd by the people who buy cas shop items to boost there charecters that it forces you to pay awell (which then means its not a f2p)

so P2P is the only way to have a game balanced for everyone. no one is higer than anyone else just becuse they decide to spend a bit more money.

/agree

 

Supposedly F2P MMOGs which in reality end up costing more than P2P MMOGs fail because they destroy a basic tenet of earning your way within the confines of a virtual world. Real money does not exist in a virtual world and therefore should have no influence whatsoever.

thanks

Originally posted by Devildog1

Originally posted by DeadlyMage

if people could tell me what f2p games are not cash shop dependant so i can see for my self.

maybe i have been misinformed

no need to attack like a bunch oh.........%$%^£$ "$&**(%

 

im open to sugestions. really. if there is a f2p that is not cash shop dependant then i will admit im wrong.

(becuse all the ones i have played have been)

Ok you want some games that aren't cash shop dependant try out Cabal online, Perfectworld and , Metin2 these are games I have played. I recommend the first two.

iv heard the first 2 are very cash shope dependant.

Originally posted by tirallum

 

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Originally posted by Darth_Pete
I see F2P games as exploiting stupid people. They don't want to pay monthly fee and end up paying more with items and other crap.

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Again, you're denying the existence of the secondary market. As if most people just payed their 10 bucks a month.

In p2p you have a minimum every month. The maximum depends on you, be it p2p or f2p.

It's those stupid people that can't control it and slap 200$/month on items and then Devs get more and more greedy and the game is ruined for anyone that doesn't want to go over 20$/month or something.

Originally posted by Darth_Pete

Originally posted by tirallum

 

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Originally posted by Darth_Pete
I see F2P games as exploiting stupid people. They don't want to pay monthly fee and end up paying more with items and other crap.

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Again, you're denying the existence of the secondary market. As if most people just payed their 10 bucks a month.

In p2p you have a minimum every month. The maximum depends on you, be it p2p or f2p.

It's those stupid people that can't control it and slap 200$/month on items and then Devs get more and more greedy and the game is ruined for anyone that doesn't want to go over 20$/month or something.

darthe

anyway um trying out the games g recomended me.

This topic is really stupid.

First of all, are you trying to say f2p is actually not free and "may" cost more than P2P? If this is what you want to say, thanks a lot we all knew that.

Secondly, not every f2p game earn your money from cash item shop, some are just that you can either choose to subscript or not, and if you subscript it grants you access to more place etc, and if you choose to subscript the monthly fee is a fixed amount, just like P2P games.

Thirdly, even if item shop f2p would cost more than P2P then so what? Its your choice for which game to play, and to pay or not, and how much to pay, some P2P games are more expensive than the other P2P as well.

And what is your definition for "the game works" or "the game is the way"?

If there is a game you don't like (no matter balance issue or what), it doesn't mean that it is not working, it only means that it does not suit you, and when there are certain amount of players in that game, it worked, at least for them, although not for you.

So what is the point for the discussion?

Originally posted by Nightsorrow

This topic is really stupid.

First of all, are you trying to say f2p is actually not free and "may" cost more than P2P? If this is what you want to say, thanks a lot we all knew that.

Secondly, not every f2p game earn your money from cash item shop, some are just that you can either choose to subscript or not, and if you subscript it grants you access to more place etc, and if you choose to subscript the monthly fee is a fixed amount, just like P2P games.

Thirdly, even if item shop f2p would cost more than P2P then so what? Its your choice for which game to play, and to pay or not, and how much to pay, some P2P games are more expensive than the other P2P as well.

 

And what is your definition for "the game works" or "the game is the way"?

If there is a game you don't like (no matter balance issue or what), it doesn't mean that it is not working, it only means that it does not suit you, and when there are certain amount of players in that game, it worked, at least for them, although not for you.

 

So what is the point for the discussion?

i said f2p games are not balanced. people who decide to spend lots of money are way more overpowerd than those who are not willing to spend money or no momey.

why does anyone want to play an unbalanced game??

Originally posted by DeadlyMage

 

you dont even get my point at all

 

i said f2p games are not balanced. people who decide to spend lots of money are way more overpowerd than those who are not willing to spend money or no momey.

why does anyone want to play an unbalanced game??

Because P2P games can be unbalanced too, both in game unbalance or unbalance caused by real money, no game is perfect, so after all its the player's choice.

Originally posted by DeadlyMage

people moan and want all games to be f2p.

but it will never work. if you have ever played a f2p and dont want to pay you have no chance of getting anywhere in the game.

the game is so overpwerd by the people who buy cas shop items to boost there charecters that it forces you to pay awell (which then means its not a f2p)

so P2P is the only way to have a game balanced for everyone. no one is higer than anyone else just becuse they decide to spend a bit more money.

You are way wrong.  I've played many F2P games where I got over level 100 and was able to kick butt over people who payed for stuff.  You have to know what games to play and how to play them.  People who like P2P games have to justify paying for them, pretty sad.

Originally posted by Nightsorrow

 

Originally posted by DeadlyMage

 

you dont even get my point at all

 

i said f2p games are not balanced. people who decide to spend lots of money are way more overpowerd than those who are not willing to spend money or no momey.

why does anyone want to play an unbalanced game??

 

Because P2P games can be unbalanced too, both in game unbalance or unbalance caused by real money, no game is perfect, so after all its the player's choice.