Aion

Originally posted by Samuraisword

 Ohh yeah lag. I always wonder why EvE Online can handle over 50k players on one server and no one else in the industry can figure it out. Maybe intelligent design applied by artists, programmers, and server engineers is required. Call CCP for a clue.

 

The Eve server goes down for maintenance EVERY day for 1 hour.

Eve is constant zoning everytime you dock or change systems.

While Eve works fine, it is hardly an example of a state of the art server.

Originally posted by Ranma87

There are some problems with Asian MMO's in general...

-They focus to heavily on pve and not on pvp.

- Character creation and uniqueness in general is rare, 1 in 4 characters is a clone and all classes usually wind up with the same item sets.

-Instead of polishing existing content they worry about rushing out new content (aka world expansion and raising level caps).

- Translations are emotionless and dull, while not bad grammar wise they usually sound like they were translated by R2D2. Its very obvious they use contracted companies to bulk translate text in most of them.

- Servers should not be in asia, it gives English players an unfair ping disadvantage.

- They need to cater more to the U.S. market if they except any type of success sales wise. Americans and asians don't necessarily like the same things. All these MMO's are all to obviously targeting an asian crowd and all they did in the English versions was change the text.

- More than anything on earth I hate "click to move" any MMO that does not support WASD or at least the arrow keys had no chance of me buying it. I know asians like it but I absolutely loathe it.

 

Im really hoping these are not present in Aion

Dude I'm quite sure aion won't have any of this flaws u just mentioned for one it's an PvPvE type game I don't know about any of u guys but i never played an mmo that had that. Besides most of the things you mentioned are problems most f2p asian games face and I sure as hell know Aion won't be a f2p game lmao. As for instancing goes as long as the game have good game play, a decent flying combat system and no bots I could careless of the instances they put in. I just hope NC Soft does a good job with this game, Which for sure I know they will. 

Originally posted by thorwood

 

Originally posted by Samuraisword

 Ohh yeah lag. I always wonder why EvE Online can handle over 50k players on one server and no one else in the industry can figure it out. Maybe intelligent design applied by artists, programmers, and server engineers is required. Call CCP for a clue.

 

Eve lagged when I played.

 

The Eve server goes down for maintenance EVERY day for 1 hour.

Eve is constant zoning everytime you dock or change systems.

While Eve works fine, it is hardly an example of a state of the art server.

 

Actually, it is an engineering marvel, but first you need to take a few things into consideration.  To start with, its not a single server, but rather a single world spread across multiple server instances. 

The overload happens when there is too many players on a single instance, and that is the technology challenge that CCP still works on to try and improve.  We may have to wait for future hardware to be created before that day arrives though.

True, EVE goes down for maintenance every day.... annoys the heck out of me, but no more than WOW did by shutting down for most of the day on Tuesdays. (thank God I wasn't an Aussie)

But back on track, we'll have to wait and see if AION truly breaks the mold from previous NCSoft efforts or is just more of the same. 

Samuraisword:

I sincerely hope you never get to beta test a game. For it's quite apparent that the only reason you would "test" a game is to see if you like it, not to help with its development.

Also, I find it funny how you've clammed up about NCSoft developing Guild Wars when the point was made that ArenaNet did developed it, who are indeed a subsiduary of NCSoft. If you can't admit to your overgenerialsed mistakes, then you're nothing but a troll.

You came here, made a mis-informed statement, and now continue to beat the dead horse to make yourself feel better (or look less stupid). If you have a question to ask, ask it. But no, you're incapable of using the common sense it takes to do that.

Originally posted by anonymousse

Samuraisword:

I sincerely hope you never get to beta test a game. For it's quite apparent that the only reason you would "test" a game is to see if you like it, not to help with its development.

Also, I find it funny how you've clammed up about NCSoft developing Guild Wars when the point was made that ArenaNet did developed it, who are indeed a subsiduary of NCSoft. If you can't admit to your overgenerialsed mistakes, then you're nothing but a troll.

You came here, made a mis-informed statement, and now continue to beat the dead horse to make yourself feel better (or look less stupid). If you have a question to ask, ask it. But no, you're incapable of using the common sense it takes to do that.

NCsoft owns Arenanet and therefore shares the credit for developing Guild Wars, get over it. They wouldn't list themselves as co developer as I have shown, if they didn't want part of the credit, good or bad. As publisher for CoX they also want to be associated with that game's success or failure, which is why they proudly market it on their site. Both those games are way overinstanced IMO so my original premise was a reasonable conclusion. Many gamers don't research beyond what they know or hear about a company based on previous experience only, so this thread helps Aion IMO, if it will have limited instancing.

Originally posted by 0928

Dude I'm quite sure aion won't have any of this flaws u just mentioned for one it's an PvPvE type game I don't know about any of u guys but i never played an mmo that had that.

Ya that is true, I dont' think the type of player interaction has been done before.

Besides most of the things you mentioned are problems most f2p asian games face and I sure as hell know Aion won't be a f2p game lmao.

Thank god for that as well.

As for instancing goes as long as the game have good game play

I agree there.

a decent flying combat system

I hope so too.

and no bots

Oh... well, you lost me there.  Um.  I hate to break it to you, but every single semi-popular MMO game has bots.  WoW, L1, L2, LOTRO, AC, UO, EQ, EQ2, CoX, etc..  they all have bots.  Sorry.  Aion will most definitely have bots.  Especially since NCSoft does nothing about stopping them in their other games (L2 for example).

Edit:  I forgot FFXI, SWG, RF Online, Guild wars, D&D Online and DAOC.  All have bots. (or did at one time)

I could careless of the instances they put in. I just hope NC Soft does a good job with this game, Which for sure I know they will. 

They'll do a good job.  And that's why it's going to have bots.  Hell the Asian version probably already does.

Uhm, i wouldnt be so certain dameok, yeah, im sure someone will come up with a packets sender sooner or later, however, from what we know at the moment, it doesn't look like it would be convenient to do so, when most of the time spent will be in a ffa pvp area pve wise, since leveling curve has already been stated as soft, and when dynamic world changes, making it impossible to relax or go afk since mobs may evolve and become stronger, and with such a dynamic combat system, where you can't simply click a 1,2,3 repeat, I doubt bots would end up as the best leveling choice. Will there be bots? Surely, someone always can come with that since making them isnt hard, will it be convenient? I'm doubting so from what I know, I would like to be 100% certain though, but that's well known as impossible right now ;)

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