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fyerwall 6/16/08 10:10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Leucent
Problem is they will claim that most people dont play/own the game and those who do suck at the game or (my personal favorite) have computers that are outdated and can only run WoW. |
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Leucent 6/16/08 10:12:06 AM
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Joined: 1/24/04 |
Originally posted by fyerwall
Problem is they will claim that most people dont play/own the game and those who do suck at the game or (my personal favorite) have computers that are outdated and can only run WoW.
Ah yes this is true. |
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Phaze7 6/16/08 10:13:14 AM
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Joined: 9/19/06 |
Good ridance, there are decent posts here and good information from people that actually play games and state opinions or facts. Its funny how you state an opinion and clearly put that its an opinion in writing and people go beserek . I guess fanboys can't take the heat. I know.....lets develop a game where we all created wonderful polished characters with shiny shiny armor, pretty faces and big colorful hair.... then all stand around in magic mirrors that make us look young and in shape and tell everyone how great we are........ No wait..........that happens everyday at work......( |
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Rhoklaw 6/16/08 5:43:15 PM
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Joined: 1/12/04
Don''t reply to me or quote me if you can''t do so without breaking Forum TOS cause I will report you! |
Originally posted by Drevnar
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pencilrick 6/16/08 5:45:07 PM
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Joined: 12/11/07
Our best gaming days are behind us. Games are only getting worse. |
Originally posted by eugam
Games are mostly only bashed by those who have purchased them and played them. If lots of folks start "whining" about a game, then that's a valuable "red flag" for you to look at and gives you one last chance to hold on to your $50. Also, a few folks vigorously defending a game (ala. Vanguard) is also a "red flag." |
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chryses 6/16/08 6:01:42 PM
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Joined: 5/29/07 |
Love or hate the game they have shipped 1 million copies already and i can see them shipping more. Its probably the biggest MMO success since WoW. So when you have 1 million people sign up at least 10-20% will hate it so that equals 200,000 trolls on the forums. On the other side at least 20% will love it so you have 200,000 fanbois hitting back. In the middle is the content 400,000 and I happily place myself there. The game has enough content to keep me occupied until christmas at least and by that time there will be a lot more content. Unusually I want to play a at least 6 different classes because they all play so differently.
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Gishgeron 6/16/08 6:11:42 PM
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Joined: 3/05/07 |
Originally posted by Praxus
We have no facts, actually. The only number any of us have (that is legit) are the "shipped" figures. We do not know what the subs are, what the retention from initial sales are, what the average monthly growth is...ect.
Until ALL of those three things become apparent, we know nothing. Everything is purely speculative at this point, and even the industry professionals would agree with that. Shipped boxes means nothing, it isn't even reflective of sales...as the PS3 had a ton of "shipped" boxes that are still sitting on shelves. All the shipping number means is that they are actively preparing for whatever projected demand they assume they may have based on interest. It does not mean there actually IS said interest, or that there is even demand for half of what they project. It also doesn't mean there isn't. I don't know, anything I could say here would be just as speculative as everyone else. The game, however, is not a success yet. Success in a returning customer system is entirely based on how many returning customers you have. We do not, after all, think Mc'Donalds to be a success just because they sold a ton of hamburgers on their first day. Its the fact they do it EVERYDAY that makes us notice them in that industry. The same holds true here. We need sub numbers, we need average growth figures. We have neither. |
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pencilrick 6/16/08 6:14:01 PM
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Joined: 12/11/07
Our best gaming days are behind us. Games are only getting worse. |
Originally posted by chryses
All I can say is that if you can make it through Tortage six times, then you deserve some special kind of award. |
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Gishgeron 6/16/08 6:17:04 PM
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