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metatronic  6/18/08 6:27:18 AM

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Nice, not even a 30% retention rate.. And anyone who says polls like this are not accurate.. Tell that to politicians who use similar exit polls which barely touch upon 1-5% of all the voters.

 
Tweakee  6/18/08 6:52:41 AM

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Well, the poll is inaccurate to an extent, since people are more likely to choose to respond if they have a negative opinion, and the community here is both more hardcore than the average player (and thus more likely to grow bored quickly) and FAR more negative than the average player (just look around these forums for evidence of that).

That said, AoC has had a dismal launch, and appears to be a seriously flawed game. It's a shame, since I really liked the style, presentation, and basic combat gameplay. I was hopeful the game would be great, and I'd be very happy if Funcom turns things around in the near future, but I wasn't willing to bet my own money on that. :)

 
DrowNoble  6/21/08 11:58:37 AM

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Originally posted by tarkin1980
Originally posted by DrowNoble

I am currently playing and will resubscribe.

I think I know why some of the above posters said they played for a while then quit.  They powergamed and blitzed through the content and got bored quickly.  Funcom recently had a mini patch to add more content in the midrange to help with this.  Though I don't think this is a fault of Funcom or AoC, if you start any new MMO and race to the cap quickly you will find yourself bored.  After all, in your race to The Cap you missed out on the enjoyment of actually playing the game.

Funcom has already said that soon there will be a pvp patch soon to get the pvper's happy.  More planned for this summer too.


 

If only I had a nickle for each time I've heard this. So now it's MY fault that the game is boring? It's MY fault that the game poses no challenge whatsoever and I reach max lvl within a month of release? Seriously, I didn't even TRY to lvl fast. I'm what you might call a casual player. I played casually and knocked off 5-10 lvls per day. Would I have had more fun if I sat around killing grey mobs instead of doing the few quests AoC actually has? Doubtful. I doubt any new content will ever save this game. I can't stand porting between those cramped little miniature maps they call a "world"


 

In a nutshell, yes it is.

Maybe you got used to the quick leveling in Tortage and expected that to continue.  Maybe you blizted to 40+ in a week and then found out you had less to do.  Hard to get groups if most of players are behind you in levels after all.  I don't know your personal situation, but those are guesses.

I also find it odd some people claim the launch was a failure.  There were no server crashes, no game breaking bugs either.  Sure there were bugs, but more annoying than anything else, no game is perfect.  They are being patched out twice a week.  Over 110k Collectors Editions sold, 500k Forum registrations, estimated 400k players on launch day.   I guess if you campare those numbers to the 10 million of That Other Game then it's a "failure".

 
Aguitha  6/21/08 12:00:48 PM

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Originally posted by metatronic

Nice, not even a 30% retention rate.. And anyone who says polls like this are not accurate.. Tell that to politicians who use similar exit polls which barely touch upon 1-5% of all the voters.


 

30% retention after 1 month, now imagine that number in 3 or 6 months !  AOC will be a ghostown pretty soon.

 
Anlar  6/21/08 12:12:12 PM

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Originally posted by metatronic

Nice, not even a 30% retention rate.. And anyone who says polls like this are not accurate.. Tell that to politicians who use similar exit polls which barely touch upon 1-5% of all the voters.

 

An accurate poll relies on random sampling. Online polls are rarely accurate as people who participate are interested parties and you are more likely to have a skewed population sample.

 

Exit polls are nice because they get people's decision of what they actually voted for and why, rather than polls prior to the election where people can change their mind. However, it's still voluntary to give a response. You have to be careful which precincts  you go to, time of day, etc to make sure you have a good cross sample of various types of people.

 
CharlieP  6/21/08 12:16:47 PM

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As ridiculous as this poll is, what was the idea behind the last two available options?

 
Ghist  6/21/08 12:25:32 PM

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http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/186176/page/7

It's trying to be a fair poll and give answers to people who haven't played the game in hopes of not invalidating the polls by people voting on a topic that they do not have any idea about.

Waiting for the next thing

CharlieP  6/21/08 1:48:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ghist

It's trying to be a fair poll and give answers to people who haven't played the game in hopes of not invalidating the polls by people voting on a topic that they do not have any idea about.

 

So, the two never subscribed options are for those who did not buy the game?

 
rvjones10  6/21/08 4:06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Goldknyght
Originally posted by Gnazon

When Vanguard came out I have actually played it till my free month was over, AoC I have canceled (and never logged back in) after 3 weeks.


you know god doesnt like liars because that is so far fetched that i nearly pooped my pants. Vanguard wasnt even playable and yet you claim you played till month was over. HA its funny how people come in here to diss AoC. I see the problem with AoC and its a problem that will be fixed. Not much to do when you get to level 47ish and you have to grind. Which unfortunetly not many people like to do witht he combat system of AoC. This game is defenitly not grind friendly. to much work to get barely anything will make anyone go mad so i understand why you quit but dont say you played vanguard for 30days. thats just retarded. the only way you played this game would of been to have logged in every patch day to see if they fixed somthing and you realized they didnt. and logged back off.


 

I don't understand how you could call him a liar? Both my wife and I played Vanguard from launch, sure there were many issue's but nothing kept us from playing in the first month.  Saying the game was completely unplayable is certainly not true.

 
altairzq  6/21/08 5:08:52 PM

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Originally posted by CharlieP
Originally posted by Ghist

It's trying to be a fair poll and give answers to people who haven't played the game in hopes of not invalidating the polls by people voting on a topic that they do not have any idea about.

 

So, the two never subscribed options are for those who did not buy the game?

 

You are right.. then the retention rate is bigger than shown. We should take out the 30% that never bought the game. Don't know how to do that

 

Edit: will try the easy way. My maths are terrible :)...

1% = 7.61 votes

30.2% never subscribed = 230 votes

26.3% will resubscribe = 200 votes

43.5% won't resubscribe =  331 votes

 

New total votes: 200+331 votes = 531 votes

will resubscribe = 37.67%

won't resubscribe = 62.33 %

That's a not too bad retention.

 
Battlekruse  6/22/08 3:00:48 AM