EVE Online

I always used to hate it when people jumped in threads they hadn't followed, but I just have to with this thread.  All I have to say is, the OP does not fully grasp the concept of EVE pvp.

You dont need uber skills to pvp.

xbps.org/kb/

I have to disagree. Why? First of all you don't go solo PvPing in this game, even if you do, you can get pwned by newbie characters even if you have over 2 year of playtime, cause skills aren't the most important thing in EVE and PvP.

When you see a fleet of frigates taking down a battleship, you'll know what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by urgo

In what game a noob player can kill a 3 year old player?Wanna kill?Kill another noob.Wanna kill someone older?Be smart.Play your cards right,join some friends,choose your fights.Eve rewards teamwork.I only have one advice to anyone who is willing to try the game.By the moment u hit the log in button,forget everything u knew about the other games.Its a whole new diferent world you are entering.If you want ta play something similiar to your previews game,just dont bother.If you want to play something new and unique,adapt to the game mechanics,learn the game and have FUN!I do!

His point isn't that noob players don't know the mechanics of the game, and thus lose in PvP to the veterans.  His point is that skills in EVE train in real time, so in order to have a crapload of skills which facilitate PvP excellence you have to spend incredible amounts of real time letting them build up.  This immediately excludes new players from installing the game and joining the PvP action in a meaningful and useful way.  (unless of course they PvP against other noobs)

In other MMOs players merely have to level their characters and grind some gear to get there, a process which as we all know can take mere days.

Originally posted by Sarcazmo

Originally posted by urgo

In what game a noob player can kill a 3 year old player?Wanna kill?Kill another noob.Wanna kill someone older?Be smart.Play your cards right,join some friends,choose your fights.Eve rewards teamwork.I only have one advice to anyone who is willing to try the game.By the moment u hit the log in button,forget everything u knew about the other games.Its a whole new diferent world you are entering.If you want ta play something similiar to your previews game,just dont bother.If you want to play something new and unique,adapt to the game mechanics,learn the game and have FUN!I do!

 

His point isn't that noob players don't know the mechanics of the game, and thus lose in PvP to the veterans.  His point is that skills in EVE train in real time, so in order to have a crapload of skills which facilitate PvP excellence you have to spend incredible amounts of real time letting them build up.  This immediately excludes new players from installing the game and joining the PvP action in a meaningful and useful way.  (unless of course they PvP against other noobs)

In other MMOs players merely have to level their characters and grind some gear to get there, a process which as we all know can take mere days.

Actually the point he was making was that you can NEVER compete which is untrue as you can compete either as part of an ambushing squad or by spending time learning the skills needed to fight a experienced PvP person on a more or less level playing field.

OP: one word. teamwork. everything you said is appropriate for solo pvping, but if you gathered 5-10 others, i don't care if they've been playing for 10 years and have 90 million points, you'll probably win that fight.

Originally posted by charris1980

OP: one word. teamwork. everything you said is appropriate for solo pvping, but if you gathered 5-10 others, i don't care if they've been playing for 10 years and have 90 million points, you'll probably win that fight.

not even that. a 90 million sp player may not be pvp trained, or may be caught unaware on a weak ship or with a npc fitting. on those cases, even a single noob can win a 1vs1 fight.

wow

Ok can we stop feeding the troll now?  Please?

Originally posted by Taram

wow

Ok can we stop feeding the troll now?  Please?

yeah i agree i pvp myself bye poding my own ship with c4 there done end of troll