Age of Conan

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Originally posted by BigMango
No, the difference between you guys and me is that you are giving your opinion whereas I am basing my arguments on facts.

1. Worldwide ratings and how they can change over a couple months on average.
2. retail sales numbers, they are all over, there are enough threads about this, I won't post them for you.
2. Subscription numbers. Look at other games' numbers, then look at all of the negative blogs, player reviews etc... who predict AoC will lose 50% of its players.
3. On average we know how much mmorpgs lose players after they have been released. AoC had more players than lotro had at launch and as I said, if AoC loses half its players it'll still be more than lotro which is imho one of the best mmorpgs.

But you guys here are only bashing. You are basing your arguments on nothing.

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And you are basing your arguments on assumptions and ratings which change every second week? why should we believe you more?

Originally posted by Shastra

 

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Originally posted by BigMango
No, the difference between you guys and me is that you are giving your opinion whereas I am basing my arguments on facts.

1. Worldwide ratings and how they can change over a couple months on average.
2. retail sales numbers, they are all over, there are enough threads about this, I won't post them for you.
2. Subscription numbers. Look at other games' numbers, then look at all of the negative blogs, player reviews etc... who predict AoC will lose 50% of its players.
3. On average we know how much mmorpgs lose players after they have been released. AoC had more players than lotro had at launch and as I said, if AoC loses half its players it'll still be more than lotro which is imho one of the best mmorpgs.

But you guys here are only bashing. You are basing your arguments on nothing.

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And you are basing your arguments on assumptions and ratings which change every second week? why should we believe you more?

First, I am basing my arguments on something, whereas you guys are basing it on nothing but personal opinion.

Then, I am basing my arguments compared to what we have seen with others games on average.

There is nothing more anyone can say today. Everything else is just bashing and/or fanboism.

See you again in 6 months / 1 year when we can say something more.

Originally posted by BigMango

No, the difference between you guys and me is that you are giving your opinion whereas I am basing my arguments on facts.

 

1. Worldwide ratings and how they can change over a couple months on average.

2. retail sales numbers, they are all over, there are enough threads about this, I won't post them for you.

2. Subscription numbers. Look at other games' numbers, then look at all of the negative blogs, player reviews etc... who predict AoC will lose 50% of its players.

3. On average we know how much mmorpgs lose players after they have been released. AoC had more players than lotro had at launch and as I said, if AoC loses half its players it'll still be more than lotro which is imho one of the best mmorpgs.

 

But you guys here are only bashing. You are basing your arguments on nothing.

Your like a broken record.

Heres some facts.

Game is broken in sooo many ways, you can read all about them here and on the official site before they lock the threads.

Game is missing lots of content. Most of the things they promised are either broken or missing, like most of the things they printed on the box.

Most of the reviews of this game are based on the Toratage 1-20  area. Mysteriously the best, most developed part of there game. Hmmmm

How can a game so unfinished gain a 8.0 average? It smells like fish.

You don't answer anyones questions do you? If your going to post the same things repeatedly please have the balls to respond to us, instead of calling us "bashers".

Originally posted by Bladeinhand

 

Game is broken in sooo many ways, you can read all about them here and on the official site before they lock the threads.

Game is missing lots of content. Most of the things they promised are either broken or missing, like most of the things they printed on the box.

Yes, we already know this. And I agree the game has bugs and missing features. We also know that we are at launch and we know how it went for the other games on average. All of the mmorpgs had bugs/missing content at launch. What we also know, is how almost everyone agrees with how solid the AoC game foundations are.

It seems you haven't seen many mmorpgs launches, have you.

Originally posted by BigMango

Originally posted by Bladeinhand

 

Game is broken in sooo many ways, you can read all about them here and on the official site before they lock the threads.

Game is missing lots of content. Most of the things they promised are either broken or missing, like most of the things they printed on the box.

 

Yes, we already know this. And I agree the game has bugs and missing features. We also know that we are at launch and we know how it went for the other games on average. All of the mmorpgs had bugs/missing content at launch. What we also know, is how almost everyone agrees with how solid the AoC game foundations are.

It seems you haven't seen many mmorpgs launches, have you.

 

It hasnt just got some minor bugs though has it? Its got major game breaking issues, major level pacing issues and major lack of content. You just admitted its not finished, so how does it deserve a 8.0?

And please don't assume you know me, Ive been in many MMO launches and I have never played one were I could get from level 1 to 80 in a couple of weeks and there was nothing to do at the end of it.

Your failing, your resorting to personal attacks because you cant prove your point, you also pick and choose parts of peoples post without directly facing whats said to you.

Im still waiting for you to answer my question btw.

Again, you are running in circles. As I said, you haven't seen many mmorpg launches.

Many mmorpgs launched without enough content. Take Lotro, a game many here, including myself, believe is one of the better mmorpgs, had people complaining all over as they ran out of content a  couple weeks after release.

Originally posted by BigMango

See you again in 6 months / 1 year when we can say something more.

Funcoms financial reports for Q2 will be published in 2 months (late August)

- that will help distinguish hype and facts

Originally posted by BigMango

Again, you are running in circles. As I said, you haven't seen many mmorpg launches.

Many mmorpgs launched without enough content. Take Lotro, a game many here, including myself, believe is one of the better mmorpgs, had people complaining all over as they ran out of content a  couple weeks after release.

You are constantly repeating yourself. You are the one running in circles. And again you have no clue to how many game launches I have attended, let me tell you to set the record straight, more or less every major and alot of minor MMO launches I have been there so leave it at that.

Strangely enougth I was there for LOTR too.

Did I max level in a week? No.

Did I experience lots of major ground breaking bugs? No.

Did I run out of things to do? No.

I played for 3 months, was an ok game and I really didnt remember all those people you claim running out of content in a couple of weeks like your claiming.

It's a well know fact Lotro ran out of content for many a couple weeks after release. Even today there are people bringing this up regularly when talking about mmo launches.

Search the lotro forums, everything's there.

Originally posted by BigMango

It's a well know fact Lotro ran out of content for many a couple weeks after release. Even today there are people bringing this up regularly when talking about mmo launches.

Search the lotro forums, everything's there.

 

I played LOTR I did'nt run out content like I did with Conan in the first week. Your changing the subject I'm not interested in LOTR. The fact is you claimed AoC is better than 90% of all MMO's, you still have not given me your personal opinion why you think this.

You constantly bleat on about an average score for this game when its been out for a month and most of the reviews are for the starter content or were written before the gaemw as out. You cannot review a MMO after its been out a few days.

You also fail to answer anyones questions or challenges, why are you even posting?