Age of Conan

   Aoc is the forth mmo I have played at /or near launch . It all began with SWG in early august 03 which wasn't my first MMO but it was my first launch experience .I will elaborate by saying it was a few weeks after the initial release due to information gathered by forums (The game was pretty unplayable for a few weeks, heavy lag in cities , frequent crashing ,Memory leaks ,etc.etc).

Well my initial experience within galaxies was by far the most up and down . From a game play stand point most of my skills (abilities)seemed to work , But frequent spikes of lag were common causing skills to misfire , other times it would take 20-30 sec's for it to register my commands .From a Content stand point though nothing was in place . Quests were available but completely worthless (no xp ,dismal amounts of credits, no items) This actually really never changed with galaxies until NGE years later. Mounts , Vehicles and Ships were Far off in the development cycle , So travel was a chore (to say it lightly ) largely due to player cities being in their infancy  (no shuttles) . By now you might be wondering what made this game fun at all ? The community and the PVP . Which never changed from my perspective throughout the games life span .

My next launch was eq2 on Nov 04 , My first Launch day experience . This game by far had the worst launch I have seen , Bugs , Bugs , Bugs galore .. Crashes were a constant annoyance . Server lag was a persitent factor  , Just about every class was broken . Graphics glitches were also an annoying disturbance .My next Launches were with Vanguard and POTBS which I had been in during beta. I add these games with EQ2 because just about everything that plagued EQII was a problem with both Vanguard and POTBS.

Now what do these games have to do with AOC and my topic heading ? It's the simple fact that none of these games have died as of yet , Vanguard and EQII have both arguably been turned around by SOE and are doing ok at present . SWG is hitting it's 5 year mark and POtBS is atleast still running . AOC in my opinion runs considerably better than any of those games at their launch. And seems to be plagued by far less issues as a whole .

So where does the assumption come from that this game will go the way of the dodo ? What evidence are you comparing this game against that suggests it will turn belly up Auto assault style ?

The old story is that is is easier to destroy than to build and its easier to hate and go away than it is to like the game and say, maybe I will come back (I want this game to WORK NOW and what they promised!).

With that note I will say this.

We are in a new generation of mmorpg players, as stated in post by Teala from G4, World of Warcraft set the standard on how all mmorpg should be (Gold Standard), so we expect the mmorpg's to be BETTER than what we have already played or are playing now (no excuses).

In other words, we are spoiled with graphics, gameplay and the list can go on. The community feels like there getting robbed when a company states that the game has this and that in a game, but its no where to be seen in the game. (Haha, this sounds like old SWG now).

This doom and gloom shit that people like to spread about how AoC will fail is just pure hate and dont want the game to succeed cause they feel robbed.

The purpose of your post is to make AOC look good compared to games that you claim had bad launch.   None of these games is a giant in the MMO community atm.  Why ?  Maybe because it had to many issues ?  Maybe the fact is that the more issues that are in the game - the less populare it will be.  And at the same time the less money is around to actually improve the game and make future expansions ?

If you really want to see a massive online game now - You will have to get these things right.  Thats where Funcom not only failed.  They cheated ppl into buying the game.   Will AOC be massive ?  Nope it will not.  Will it be around in some form ?  Yes.  Will Funcom earn enough money to keep the game going strong after other games and expansions come out 08 and 09 ?  

Funcom made a deliberat move by launching the game at this point.  They didn't care if the game was unfininshed.  They didn't care if half of the promises hyped up in past year were false.  They just wanted to make quick bucks before ppl realsied how crappy the game acutally was (for long term gameplay) and before other games that have potientals beyond AOC got out.

Thats FUncom for you.  Its not about the gamers.  So the result is a poor game, less players, less money, less future content. 

Gratz if you like the game.  Hope you will be in it in 5 years when the first expansion might be coming out.  Or maybe they throw out a paied expansion for the DX10 feature since they couldn't get it in now ?

I completely agree, but the same 11 posters feel compelled to make people not want to get the game. What ever makes their boat float hu?

Originally posted by AOCtester

The purpose of your post is to make AOC look good compared to games that you claim had bad launch.   None of these games is a giant in the MMO community atm.  Why ?  Maybe because it had to many issues ?  Maybe the fact is that the more issues that are in the game - the less populare it will be.  And at the same time the less money is around to actually improve the game and make future expansions ?

If you really want to see a massive online game now - You will have to get these things right.  Thats where Funcom not only failed.  They cheated ppl into buying the game.   Will AOC be massive ?  Nope it will not.  Will it be around in some form ?  Yes.  Will Funcom earn enough money to keep the game going strong after other games and expansions come out 08 and 09 ?  

Funcom made a deliberat move by launching the game at this point.  They didn't care if the game was unfininshed.  They didn't care if half of the promises hyped up in past year were false.  They just wanted to make quick bucks before ppl realsied how crappy the game acutally was (for long term gameplay) and before other games that have potientals beyond AOC got out.

Thats FUncom for you.  Its not about the gamers.  So the result is a poor game, less players, less money, less future content. 

Gratz if you like the game.  Hope you will be in it in 5 years when the first expansion might be coming out.  Or maybe they throw out a paied expansion for the DX10 feature since they couldn't get it in now ?

So what your saying is that good launches would lead to good amount of subscribers? Take LOTRO for example, the launch was considered the best launch ever. There was virtually no bugs and glitches. I dont see the game glooming with sucess now.

Originally posted by AOCtester

The purpose of your post is to make AOC look good compared to games that you claim had bad launch.   None of these games is a giant in the MMO community atm.  Why ?  Maybe because it had to many issues ?  Maybe the fact is that the more issues that are in the game - the less populare it will be.  And at the same time the less money is around to actually improve the game and make future expansions ?

If you really want to see a massive online game now - You will have to get these things right.  Thats where Funcom not only failed.  They cheated ppl into buying the game.   Will AOC be massive ?  Nope it will not.  Will it be around in some form ?  Yes.  Will Funcom earn enough money to keep the game going strong after other games and expansions come out 08 and 09 ?  

Funcom made a deliberat move by launching the game at this point.  They didn't care if the game was unfininshed.  They didn't care if half of the promises hyped up in past year were false.  They just wanted to make quick bucks before ppl realsied how crappy the game acutally was (for long term gameplay) and before other games that have potientals beyond AOC got out.

Thats FUncom for you.  Its not about the gamers.  So the result is a poor game, less players, less money, less future content. 

Gratz if you like the game.  Hope you will be in it in 5 years when the first expansion might be coming out.  Or maybe they throw out a paied expansion for the DX10 feature since they couldn't get it in now ?

You misread my initial statement , Its not a point about the quality of the game . It also has nothing to do with being "a giant " in the industry either .It's about those who claim the game is doomed or put it in the same light as D&L or other scams that have come along in the MMO sphere (Mourning?).

Pretty much nailed it. The requirments to run it seem unreasonable for the 'avg gamer' I think is a big reason why nobody sticks around. Game needs some work too so yes Virginia...AoC will be the let down of 08'. It's like everyone stopped trying....

Originally posted by xxreaper008

I completely agree, but the same 11 posters feel compelled to make people not want to get the game. What ever makes their boat float hu?

 

Originally posted by AOCtester

The purpose of your post is to make AOC look good compared to games that you claim had bad launch.   None of these games is a giant in the MMO community atm.  Why ?  Maybe because it had to many issues ?  Maybe the fact is that the more issues that are in the game - the less populare it will be.  And at the same time the less money is around to actually improve the game and make future expansions ?

If you really want to see a massive online game now - You will have to get these things right.  Thats where Funcom not only failed.  They cheated ppl into buying the game.   Will AOC be massive ?  Nope it will not.  Will it be around in some form ?  Yes.  Will Funcom earn enough money to keep the game going strong after other games and expansions come out 08 and 09 ?  

Funcom made a deliberat move by launching the game at this point.  They didn't care if the game was unfininshed.  They didn't care if half of the promises hyped up in past year were false.  They just wanted to make quick bucks before ppl realsied how crappy the game acutally was (for long term gameplay) and before other games that have potientals beyond AOC got out.

Thats FUncom for you.  Its not about the gamers.  So the result is a poor game, less players, less money, less future content. 

Gratz if you like the game.  Hope you will be in it in 5 years when the first expansion might be coming out.  Or maybe they throw out a paied expansion for the DX10 feature since they couldn't get it in now ?

So what your saying is that good launches would lead to good amount of subscribers? Take LOTRO for example, the launch was considered the best launch ever. There was virtually no bugs and glitches. I dont see the game glooming with sucess now.

I will not play another Turbine game - period.    AC2 really kiiled any chance of me ever playing anotehr game by Turbine ever again.  I suspect I am not the only one that feels that way.   Maybe that is why LoTR is not hitting 500k subscribers.   Maybe other reasons - like the fact that people are put off from the lack of or the fact that there is no PvP in the game.   Monster player vs player is - (no comment).
 

AoC will dwindle in numbers if Funcom doesn't get their act together...it has in fact all ready started.   I have seen numerous post asking for server mergers all ready on the official forum because people are finding it ahrd to find people to play with to do the group quest at higher levels.   Was a post in the official forums saying the Eiglophian Mountains and Thunder River are virtual ghost towns on some servers, but the mods there quickly deleted it.

AoC is bleeding to death slowly.   It is only going to get worse unless Funcom wakes up and fixes their game - and quick.    First impressions have a huge impact on these games.

For now not many players systems, it seems, can run AoC smoothly. And if what they promise will ultimately be in game? Than i don't see why can't AoC begin to have a steady of subs, maybe increase a bit in about 1 years to come?

Given that most of us now can retuern to VG, because we have a better system and the dev continue effort to improve the game and sort out the bugs.

But of course all these will have to depend on 1 or 2 years later what kind of mmo is out in the market....