WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by ASmith84

i despise wow. i think it is a waste of your life playing it. but i do not like to talk down on games this is why i dont say anything about wow. now before you argue on how im doing that to warhammer all im saying is that it looks like wow and wish it would put in new ideas in the genre. thats all im saying.

at least you wont hop around like bunnies but its still the click and watch. conan you can sidestep for a dodge bonus i think. its something new give it a break. at least they are trying.

Lol, so a sidestep for a dodge bonus is revolutionary and all the new stuff WAR brings to the table like: dynamic world, capital sieging, city levels, keep sieges, leveling guilds, guild banners, tome of knowledge, 2-color armor dyeing, anti-ganking mechanics, recipe-less crafting, guild alliance system, public quests, trophies, unlockable tactics and skills etc etc etc is unimportant? You've got your priorities all mixed up I must say.

Lol, AoC's greatest claim at originality is that in order to activate a skill you have to press 3+ buttons in sequence rather than just one. Riveting. Fascinating. The level of originality and ingenuity leaves me speechless there.

I confess I haven't read much of this thread, I'm just enjoying the pretty pictures.

Originally posted by needalife214

Originally posted by Distaste

Originally posted by ASmith84

i have more respect for conan because they tried something different. Instead of click and watch they wanted you to actually feel like your contributing to the fight by choosing which direction you swing at. Also with spellweaving how doing linking spells up can create more powerful spells. Warhammer to me just said hey see this game warcraft? lets look exactly like it and improve on it without adding anything new to the genre. Oh yea lets be more about pvp to.  Whats new in it besides collision detection? i have nothing wrong with the game its just that in order to do better you have to implement new ideas to the genre. otherwise people will still be crying about grinding and the same ol crap we all love to hear.

yea i heard about the tier stuff and how the better your side does it can take over more and raid the capital of the other side or whatever. that is cool the thing is it will be the same thing over and over again once you think about it.

 

So you admit that Warhammer is improving on current mmo systems and instead of focusing on PvE they are focusing on PvP. Guess what? THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT. If something is different it cannot be a clone. Owning your own argument ftw! When September comes around make sure you ask your teacher about logic and how to apply it. Every car has 4 wheels, an engine, steering wheel, gas pedal, and breaks by your logic the fact that they come in different shapes, sizes, styles, and power output doesn't matter because they are all clones.

So you can chain different spells in Conan to create more powerful spells? Well in Warhammer you can use abilities that change based on previous abilities you use. Believe the video they released aobut the swordmaster has this in it. If you put up your debuff then use a certain attack it can change the damage of that attack from say melee to spell damage. Thus making it a tactical ability since if you are fighting another tank melee might not be the best attack but magic will eat through them. DPS casters have the ability to use certain spells that increase their damage/crit  at the risk of blowing themselves up. Combo attacks are not that new.

As far as your last argument. CS has been the same for years yet people still play it.  Why? The maps might be the same but every game plays out differently. PvP is never static. City raids won't happen every day and you certainly won't take the city every time you try. Go take some music lessons and figure out why there are so few notes but millions of different songs.

/agreed...Nice Post my friend

Im also going to have to agree with you, its like one of my friends band members who said "All music is the same, its just at different tempos and different note progressions, but basically a rock song is no different from a death metal song"

People just dont seem to see the simple logic behind these things.

-Jive

most of that stuff has already been done. alot by conan actually and conan did come out first. if you want to get into detail conan brought new combat, player made cities and sieging them, realistic jumping not bunnyhoping, being m rated, GOOD graphics not cartoony (im talking in the mmo genre) see my list isnt huge cause the rest has already been done but at least its true. well i heard another game had player made cities but its probably one of the less popular ones so it doesnt matter.

sorry if i seem to attack you but i had a bad day at work today and still have to work more so itll probably get worse just had to do something to occupy myself during lunch break.

I'm starting to find all the "WoW Clone" posts hilarious. It gets old, but i htink im gonna start making dumby accounts just to make more "WoW Clone" posts.

Christopher Walken: I've got a fever and the only remedy is "MORE WOW CLONE"!

Behave, please.

If you don't like the topic of discussion here for whatever reason, then feel free to not post in the topic, but the rules of flaming and topic hijacking still apply. Keep the discussion on topic, and keep the discussions as discussions, not mudslinging sessions. I really don't like locking threads, but I will if I have to.

Gunhamster can stay because he's adorable.

Proceed.

Originally posted by VPellen

Behave, please.

If you don't like the topic of discussion here for whatever reason, then feel free to not post in the topic, but the rules of flaming and topic hijacking still apply. Keep the discussion on topic, and keep the discussions as discussions, not mudslinging sessions. I really don't like locking threads, but I will if I have to.

Gunhamster can stay because he's adorable.

Proceed.

Lol! Give us that Gunhamster back!

I managed to save it for later enjoyment but imo the newcomers should also get a chance to appreciate the sheer awesomeness of its sinister cuteness!

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Originally posted by ASmith84
most of that stuff has already been done. alot by conan actually and conan did come out first. if you want to get into detail conan brought new combat, player made cities and sieging them, realistic jumping not bunnyhoping, being m rated, GOOD graphics not cartoony (im talking in the mmo genre) see my list isnt huge cause the rest has already been done but at least its true. well i heard another game had player made cities but its probably one of the less popular ones so it doesnt matter.
sorry if i seem to attack you but i had a bad day at work today and still have to work more so itll probably get worse just had to do something to occupy myself during lunch break.

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Keep sieges were done by DAOC (Mythic), player built cities and sieges were done by Shadowbane...dodging in combat was done by DDO....

Oh..they have boobs.

The pumpkin was funny.  Another casualty in the <modedit> war on terrorism.