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snocked  6/29/08 8:36:43 PM

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60% of our guild has cancelled their subs already.  We started with over 300 members.

 
dirtknap69  6/30/08 4:24:13 AM

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Originally posted by ethion
Originally posted by dirtknap69

with over 800 people voted, the statistical confidence of only 25% subscribing to AoC is pretty high.

 

I think retaining only 1 in 4 players of a brand new MMO is pretty shockingly bad myself...


Actually you are reading the poll wrong.  It looks like they are retaining around 40% so far based on the poll.  About 28% of the poll response is people that have not subscribed to the game at all.

40% is better then I would have expected, although I think the response would depend a lot on when someone responded relative to when they bought the game.  I think in the first week or two people probably feel pretty positve about the game.  I think it takes 3-4 weeks to reach the point where you decide you would rather cancel.

You're doing the maths wrong ;-) it's 35% retention based on this poll - 1 in 3 who play the game continue to subscribe. I agree about most people taking 3-4 weeks to work out the game is a piece of unfinished sh1t though.


 
Hhussk  6/30/08 9:12:46 AM

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Originally posted by 3on1

with the amount of haters who gathered at mmorpg.com i would have expected worse numbers for aoc

but i had a laugh since people see a poll (without random selecting the voters) as proof that aoc=fail :) we will see in a month IF funcom or "insiders" post their numbers..


 

I would be highly appreciative if FunCom posts their numbers. As I've stated before, this poll is not a scientific poll. However, it has some representation. It doesn't focus on whether you love it or hate it. It represents your status.

We all know lies occur on the boards. I'm sure some of the voters are not telling the truth or trying to mainpulate data. Still, every now and then, someone writes a comment that you can tell is unbiased. That's when you know your latching onto a true opinion.

So what you can do, is read the poll, check the numbers, trim off the outlyiers (so to speak), and then start sifting through the comments. Remove the h8ter and fanbois. Then start capitalizing on those posters who are clearly writing true experiences. Once you get their information...then you have a more complete story.

For example:

Does anyone dispute the problem with FunCom over customer service? I've read numerous experiences, even in their own forums, that this is s problem.

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shouden  6/30/08 10:00:47 AM

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I canceled, sadly. I tried to like the game, to see a light at the end of the tunnel so to speak, but with each patch the performance of the client went down considerably. I went from the 50 fps when grinding to 20ish consistently; the game became almost unplayable at times, with random lockups and disconnects while zoning. I was on my way to having a second character at 80,  but got tired of the bugs mentioned above. Tired of Necromancers killing me from stealth with no way to fight back because the search skill is horribly broken. Tired of being unable to defend my guildmates when they are attacked by someone of my faction. (Bane server FTL)

 

Now I just troll their forums, promoting Warhammer, and secretly hoping they fix their game to make it enjoyable for me again.

 
ethion  6/30/08 10:33:32 AM

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Originally posted by Hhussk
Originally posted by 3on1

with the amount of haters who gathered at mmorpg.com i would have expected worse numbers for aoc

but i had a laugh since people see a poll (without random selecting the voters) as proof that aoc=fail :) we will see in a month IF funcom or "insiders" post their numbers..


 

I would be highly appreciative if FunCom posts their numbers. As I've stated before, this poll is not a scientific poll. However, it has some representation. It doesn't focus on whether you love it or hate it. It represents your status.

We all know lies occur on the boards. I'm sure some of the voters are not telling the truth or trying to mainpulate data. Still, every now and then, someone writes a comment that you can tell is unbiased. That's when you know your latching onto a true opinion.

So what you can do, is read the poll, check the numbers, trim off the outlyiers (so to speak), and then start sifting through the comments. Remove the h8ter and fanbois. Then start capitalizing on those posters who are clearly writing true experiences. Once you get their information...then you have a more complete story.

For example:

Does anyone dispute the problem with FunCom over customer service? I've read numerous experiences, even in their own forums, that this is s problem.

 

While this poll isn't scientific and has some flaws it is interesting to note that xfire numbers do kinda mirror it based on people playing the game.  It was at peak something better then 90k hours and now it is down around 35k hours.  So they have retained between 35 - 40 percent of their player usage which likely maps to peak user base vs current user base.  Again not scientific or 100% but it sure is interesting that it closely matches this poll.

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VultureSkull  6/30/08 11:40:40 AM

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I have a 3 monthly sub, since i dont want to go back to WoW, bored out of my skull with it.

And to be honest there is nothing much more out there, EQ2, VG, LOTROL, none of these float my boat as AoC does .

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shukes33  6/30/08 11:43:25 AM

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Monthly sub on continuous update. Just nothing else out there as good at the min. AoC is by no means great but only other game that i can get into is eq! and after 7 years i need a break :).

 
Dreamagram  6/30/08 4:09:06 PM

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Interesting results so far. Considering forum dwellers - and especially these forums - are the most opinionated (and then generally outspoken hostile) lot for any game, the poll is actually rather positive. :)

raven222  6/30/08 5:03:30 PM

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Currently playing and will resubscribe.

The game has potential , yes it is unfinished but i can wait , i played cartoons (wow) for too long .

And no i don't use xfire like many other players .

 
ghettobooste  6/30/08 5:19:06 PM