Age of Conan

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Phantomar

There are 2 survey's on the ofiical AoC forums:

Valok's Age of conan survey  (US forums) - 6000+ respondents

Charles's Age of conan survey (EU forums) - 2500+ respondents (i think)

And both these surveys show a much more favorable attitude toward AoC.

If I were to interpret the results from those polls, I'd say you'd end up with:

1. Love it and will keep playing - 15%

2.Like it, but it needs some work, will keep playing - 60%

3. Not happy with the current state, and will cancel - 20%

4. It's just rubbish, already quit - 5%

25 for cancelling? It's kind of hard to believe, with over 80% here, over 130+ votes...

DB

Huh, so two positive survey results based on over 2500+ & 6000+ respondents seems unlikely because they contradict a single highly negative one here based on only 130+ votes!

At least in my opinion, the main conclusion to be drawn here is that these forums have a disproportionate number of 'Hatebois' & many of whom haven't even played the game, whereas the official AoC forums are mainly people who have played the game & many of whom still actively enjoy it.

Which polls are the most trustworthy?

As with all statistics, people just choose the ones that support their point of view.

Yes sir, the official Funcom site's polls are *definitely* more trustworthy and believable than that of an an *independent* site like this.

Not even a hint of doubt about bias and modding on Funcom's pages. Exactly what I heard :)

BTW it's well over 200 votes now, and the rate is even worse for AOC....

DB

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Phantomar

There are 2 survey's on the ofiical AoC forums:

Valok's Age of conan survey  (US forums) - 6000+ respondents

Charles's Age of conan survey (EU forums) - 2500+ respondents (i think)

And both these surveys show a much more favorable attitude toward AoC.

If I were to interpret the results from those polls, I'd say you'd end up with:

1. Love it and will keep playing - 15%

2.Like it, but it needs some work, will keep playing - 60%

3. Not happy with the current state, and will cancel - 20%

4. It's just rubbish, already quit - 5%

25 for cancelling? It's kind of hard to believe, with over 80% here, over 130+ votes...

DB

Huh, so two positive survey results based on over 2500+ & 6000+ respondents seems unlikely because they contradict a single highly negative one here based on only 130+ votes!

At least in my opinion, the main conclusion to be drawn here is that these forums have a disproportionate number of 'Hatebois' & many of whom haven't even played the game, whereas the official AoC forums are mainly people who have played the game & many of whom still actively enjoy it.

Which polls are the most trustworthy?

As with all statistics, people just choose the ones that support their point of view.

 

Yes sir, the official Funcom site's polls are *definitely* more trustworthy and believable than that of an an *independent* site like this.

Not even a hint of doubt about bias and modding on Funcom's pages. Exactly what I heard :)

BTW it's well over 200 votes now, and the rate is even worse for AOC....

DB

So let me guess there are supposed to be thousands of Funcom bots posting fake votes as opposed to the emminently reliable & unbiased opinions of people that post threads like "AoC = Epic Fail'.

Well you only need to get 42 times more votes & the two surveys might be comparable, so all those 'Hatebois' had better start creating those alt accounts now :)

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Phantomar

There are 2 survey's on the ofiical AoC forums:

Valok's Age of conan survey  (US forums) - 6000+ respondents

Charles's Age of conan survey (EU forums) - 2500+ respondents (i think)

And both these surveys show a much more favorable attitude toward AoC.

If I were to interpret the results from those polls, I'd say you'd end up with:

1. Love it and will keep playing - 15%

2.Like it, but it needs some work, will keep playing - 60%

3. Not happy with the current state, and will cancel - 20%

4. It's just rubbish, already quit - 5%

25 for cancelling? It's kind of hard to believe, with over 80% here, over 130+ votes...

DB

Huh, so two positive survey results based on over 2500+ & 6000+ respondents seems unlikely because they contradict a single highly negative one here based on only 130+ votes!

At least in my opinion, the main conclusion to be drawn here is that these forums have a disproportionate number of 'Hatebois' & many of whom haven't even played the game, whereas the official AoC forums are mainly people who have played the game & many of whom still actively enjoy it.

Which polls are the most trustworthy?

As with all statistics, people just choose the ones that support their point of view.

 

Yes sir, the official Funcom site's polls are *definitely* more trustworthy and believable than that of an an *independent* site like this.

Not even a hint of doubt about bias and modding on Funcom's pages. Exactly what I heard :)

BTW it's well over 200 votes now, and the rate is even worse for AOC....

DB

 

So let me guess there are supposed to be thousands of Funcom bots posting fake votes as opposed to the emminently reliable & unbiased opinions of people that post threads like "AoC = Epic Fail'.

Well you only need to get 42 times more votes & the two surveys might be comparable, so all those 'Hatebois' had better start creating those alt accounts now :)

Sorry to break your bubble, but fanbois are just as welcome to register on MMORPG.com, as those who do not, or will not continue subscribing to AoC after they have bought it. I'm pretty sure they know how to create alts to vote just like the "rabid haters", or however you are labeling anyone that decides not to keep paying for an open beta anymore, or for some time for now.

This neutrality, sadly, cannot be said about the official AOC forums.

Pretty sure you got the message the first time, just felt like pinpointing the most obvious flaw in the pathetic "alt accounts voting" excuse. :)

DB

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by LondonMagus

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by Phantomar

There are 2 survey's on the ofiical AoC forums:

Valok's Age of conan survey  (US forums) - 6000+ respondents

Charles's Age of conan survey (EU forums) - 2500+ respondents (i think)

And both these surveys show a much more favorable attitude toward AoC.

If I were to interpret the results from those polls, I'd say you'd end up with:

1. Love it and will keep playing - 15%

2.Like it, but it needs some work, will keep playing - 60%

3. Not happy with the current state, and will cancel - 20%

4. It's just rubbish, already quit - 5%

25 for cancelling? It's kind of hard to believe, with over 80% here, over 130+ votes...

DB

Huh, so two positive survey results based on over 2500+ & 6000+ respondents seems unlikely because they contradict a single highly negative one here based on only 130+ votes!

At least in my opinion, the main conclusion to be drawn here is that these forums have a disproportionate number of 'Hatebois' & many of whom haven't even played the game, whereas the official AoC forums are mainly people who have played the game & many of whom still actively enjoy it.

Which polls are the most trustworthy?

As with all statistics, people just choose the ones that support their point of view.

 

Yes sir, the official Funcom site's polls are *definitely* more trustworthy and believable than that of an an *independent* site like this.

Not even a hint of doubt about bias and modding on Funcom's pages. Exactly what I heard :)

BTW it's well over 200 votes now, and the rate is even worse for AOC....

DB

 

So let me guess there are supposed to be thousands of Funcom bots posting fake votes as opposed to the emminently reliable & unbiased opinions of people that post threads like "AoC = Epic Fail'.

Well you only need to get 42 times more votes & the two surveys might be comparable, so all those 'Hatebois' had better start creating those alt accounts now :)

 

Sorry to break your bubble, but fanbois are just as welcome to register on MMORPG.com, as those who do not, or will not continue subscribing to AoC after they have bought it. I'm pretty sure they know how to create alts to vote just like the "rabid haters", or however you are labeling anyone that decides not to keep paying for an open beta anymore, or for some time for now.

This neutrality, sadly, cannot be said about the official AOC forums.

Pretty sure you got the message the first time, just felt like pinpointing the most obvious flaw in the pathetic "alt accounts voting" excuse. :)

DB

The comment about 'alt voting' accounts wasn't an excuse, it was a sarcastic suggestion as to the only way that your sad little vote would ever achieve anything like representative volumes, so sorry to burst your bubble but you haven't pinpointed anything.

As I tried to suggest originally, both polls are biased because neither forum is strictly neutral. The AoC forums are biased in favour of people who have actually played the game & probably still do. The forums her are biased in favour of trolls who just like to attack everything like a shoal of Pirahna & even though your vote implies that people should have played the game before answering, many probably haven't.

As far as survey construction goes, any statistician will tell you that the results of a survey depend on how the questions are phrased. The AoC one allows for a comprehensive range of answers, whereas yours is a hopelessly biased piece of flame bait.

Yes many people are unhappy to varying degrees, but enough are still playing that the game is unlikely to fail anytime soon, no matter many times you quote the 'Hatebois' mantra of 'Paying for Open Beta'.

If fantasising about the demise of Funcom makes you happy, dream on.

If warhammer devs arent scamming liers and overhypers like aoc devs...warhammer will just pwn all mmos out there.. aoc is a piece of trash..even if they fix bugs and put content the game is bad by nature...

Originally posted by LondonMagus

 

The comment about 'alt voting' accounts wasn't an excuse, it was a sarcastic suggestion as to the only way that your sad little vote would ever achieve anything like representative volumes, so sorry to burst your bubble but you haven't pinpointed anything.

As I tried to suggest originally, both polls are biased because neither forum is strictly neutral. The AoC forums are biased in favour of people who have actually played the game & probably still do. The forums her are biased in favour of trolls (any proof you got? I said fanbois are just as free to come here as anyone else.... :) who just like to attack everything like a shoal of Pirahna & even though your vote implies that people should have played the game before answering, many probably haven't.

As far as survey construction goes, any statistician will tell you that the results of a survey depend on how the questions are phrased. The AoC one allows for a comprehensive range of answers, whereas yours is a hopelessly biased piece of flame bait.

Yes many people are unhappy to varying degrees, but enough are still playing that the game is unlikely to fail anytime soon, no matter many times you quote the 'Hatebois' mantra of 'Paying for Open Beta'.

If fantasising about the demise of Funcom makes you happy, dream on.

The only thing I tried to "achieve" with my "sad little poll" was to fulfill my curiosity. I even went as far as saying AOC is a good game and I'll be happy to re-subscribe. But it's nice to see that you have admitted that the polls on Funcom's sites are biased. Which means, you agree my only point here. Agreement is closed :)

By the way - I'd never said or thought anything about "Funcom's demise" - no harm is intended towards any mmo developer, that never was my intention. But I understand that Law#3 of Fanboism says: "everyone who's not with us is against us", so if someone is not a fanboi, that person must be an evil hater troll exclusively.  This is another thing where you are sadly mistaken.

DB

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by LondonMagus

 

The comment about 'alt voting' accounts wasn't an excuse, it was a sarcastic suggestion as to the only way that your sad little vote would ever achieve anything like representative volumes, so sorry to burst your bubble but you haven't pinpointed anything.

As I tried to suggest originally, both polls are biased because neither forum is strictly neutral. The AoC forums are biased in favour of people who have actually played the game & probably still do. The forums her are biased in favour of trolls (any proof you got? I said fanbois are just as free to come here as anyone else.... :) (Just look at the endless threads with titles like 'Funcom Shares  Drop' or 'AoC = Epic Fail') who just like to attack everything like a shoal of Pirahna & even though your vote implies that people should have played the game before answering, many probably haven't.

As far as survey construction goes, any statistician will tell you that the results of a survey depend on how the questions are phrased. The AoC one allows for a comprehensive range of answers, whereas yours is a hopelessly biased piece of flame bait.

Yes many people are unhappy to varying degrees, but enough are still playing that the game is unlikely to fail anytime soon, no matter many times you quote the 'Hatebois' mantra of 'Paying for Open Beta'.

If fantasising about the demise of Funcom makes you happy, dream on.

The only thing I tried to "achieve" with my "sad little poll" was to fulfill my curiosity. I even went as far as saying AOC is a good game and I'll be happy to re-subscribe. But it's nice to see that you have admitted that the polls on Funcom's sites are biased. Which means, you agree my only point here. Agreement is closed :)

By the way - I'd never said or thought anything about "Funcom's demise" - no harm is intended towards any mmo developer, that never was my intention. But I understand that Law#3 of Fanboism says: "everyone who's not with us is against us", so if someone is not a fanboi, that person must be an evil hater troll exclusively.  This is another thing where you are sadly mistaken.

DB

If your poll wasn't supposed to be biased & was just to fulfill your curiousity, why was it so obviously slanted in favour of negative response? You only allow three answers, two of which are negative & involve people quitting! People who like the game are less likely to bother voting because it is obvious trolling, people who dislike it are more likely to vote because they are desperate to see AoC fail.

The AoC survey on the other hand allowed a comprehensive range of answers, even the one that I would have given & had the highest percentage "2.Like it, but it needs some work, will keep playing - 60%".

It's fairly indicative of your alleged neutrality that you dismiss the larger better designed survey in favour of your own smaller biased one. Then again it's a bit ridiculous to claim neutrality when you casually throw the favourite 'Hatebois' chorus of 'Paying for Open Beta'.

Stop pretending to be neutral, you aren't fooling anyone. Before you ask, no I am not neutral either since I still play the game despite its flaws & enjoy doing so, but at least I am honest about it.