WAR (Warhammer Online)

Its not a matter of WAR this and WoW that, its a matter of FACT's:

FACT - Vast majority of players are tired of the same level based grind fest, kill X and rinse repeat Y amount of times before you may proceed.

FACT - The majority of WoW player base WILL NOT leave their fully developed characters just to start another level based grind all over again.

FACT - WAR lacks innovation and creativity, the vast majority of players want something new, not the same fantasy setting killing animals for X amount of times just to advance in levels.

FACT - The MMO market is starting to realize the lack of innovation and creativity and some of the new upcoming titles are proof, This will make WAR and any other WoW cookie-cut level based clone a short lived shelf life!

Im sure all the Warhammer fanbui's will enjoy the game, but to fill your mind with pure fantasies about how WAR is the next WoW killer is not only ridiculous but naive. Although i applaud your "faith" the fact of the matter is, WAR wil not make much of a dent in an already dull and boaring genre that the fantasy MMO has become!

What do you expect from an MMO?  There will always be grinding, killing x amount of this and a x amount of that, that is an MMO, its a freaking game not reality man...learn to distinguish between the two then maybe you will find what you enjoy...in game and in real life...

FACT - You have done no research on the game.

FACT - You know nothing about marketing.

I actually agree with your post. War will certainly not kill WoW...only another Blizzard MMO could even dent WoW's numbers but I do think War will have a decent playerbase. I am going to guess war will settle off at about 300k - 700k subs when the dust settles from launch.

To your other statement, I agree that there hasn't been any inovation in the MMO genre for quite some time and nothing I have seen from WoW or War or any other game on the horizon seems to be doing anything different except for maybe Darkfall (if it exists at all). We will just have to wait and see.

Originally posted by sabutai22

Its not a matter of WAR this and WoW that, its a matter of FACT's:

FACT - Vast majority of players are tired of the same level based grind fest, kill X and rinse repeat Y amount of times before you may proceed.

FACT - The majority of WoW player base WILL NOT leave their fully developed characters just to start another level based grind all over again.

FACT - WAR lacks innovation and creativity, the vast majority of players want something new, not the same fantasy setting killing animals for X amount of times just to advance in levels.

FACT - The MMO market is starting to realize the lack of innovation and creativity and some of the new upcoming titles are proof, This will make WAR and any other WoW cookie-cut level based clone a short lived shelf life!

Im sure all the Warhammer fanbui's will enjoy the game, but to fill your mind with pure fantasies about how WAR is the next WoW killer is not only ridiculous but naive. Although i applaud your "faith" the fact of the matter is, WAR wil not make much of a dent in an already dull and boaring genre that the fantasy MMO has become!

 

 

Im not a fanboi but I must reply as im a gamer by nature.  I think your logic is flawed and your fact's are very skewed and manipulated.

The truth is that WAR does have many innovative features and trumps many of WoW's drawback's.  Time sinks and non-existent in WAR which is great imo, this will attract many styles of gamers.  Gamers hate time sinks and WoW is full of them.  Watching my bird fly over all the land I just traversed is one of them.  LAME! 

anyways im not here to argue but I will give credit where it is due and Mythic/WAR, great work!

You made my WoW killer.  Finally! 

Originally posted by vardar

What do you expect from an MMO?  There will always be grinding, killing x amount of this and a x amount of that, that is an MMO, its a freaking game not reality man...learn to distinguish between the two then maybe you will find what you enjoy...in game and in real life...

Its this mentality that causes the MMO rift of dull and unimaginative genre thats become!

"What do you expect from an MMO" you ask.. Well lets see considering most of these games cost 20+ million to make, i would say i expect ALLOT more than another cookie-cut garbage title thats for sure!

"Its a freaking game not reality man" you say.. Not when money is involved, its no longer a game, it becomes a business that sheep like you follow no matter what they dangle in front of you, why dont you just give them your wallet while your at it?

The MMO industry is at an all time low, and it shows with titles like AoC and WAR, when after 20+ Millions to make a game and all that a company can deliver is another WOW clone and not even have all the classes and cities at launch they advertised says allot for the industry as a whole, that the gamers are willing to pay for beta and the players are willing to take what ever a game company will dish.

Sad are the current days of MMO and worse the mentality the players seem to have with such low expectations!

Originally posted by sabutai22

Originally posted by vardar

What do you expect from an MMO?  There will always be grinding, killing x amount of this and a x amount of that, that is an MMO, its a freaking game not reality man...learn to distinguish between the two then maybe you will find what you enjoy...in game and in real life...

 

Its this mentality that causes the MMO rift of dull and unimaginative genre thats become!

"What do you expect from an MMO" you ask.. Well lets see considering most of these games cost 20+ million to make, i would say i expect ALLOT more than another cookie-cut garbage title thats for sure!

"Its a freaking game not reality man" you say.. Not when money is involved, its no longer a game, it becomes a business that sheep like you follow no matter what they dangle in front of you, why dont you just give them your wallet while your at it?

The MMO industry is at an all time low, and it shows with titles like AoC and WAR, when after 20+ Millions to make a game and all that a company can deliver is another WOW clone and not even have all the classes and cities at launch they advertised says allot for the industry as a whole, that the gamers are willing to pay for beta and the players are willing to take what ever a game company will dish.

Sad are the current days of MMO and worse the mentality the players seem to have with such low expectations!

 

Why fix what isn't broke?

PS> The MMO industry is at it's biggest height ever you show your true intellect my friend.

Originally posted by sabutai22

Its not a matter of WAR this and WoW that, its a matter of FACT's:

FACT - Vast majority of players are tired of the same level based grind fest, kill X and rinse repeat Y amount of times before you may proceed.  -Vast majority?  Care to share your research here?

FACT - The majority of WoW player base WILL NOT leave their fully developed characters just to start another level based grind all over again.  -The majority of people left other games to play WoW.  If a game is good enough people will leave to play it, but not if it is just the same thing in a different wrapper.

FACT - WAR lacks innovation and creativity, the vast majority of players want something new, not the same fantasy setting killing animals for X amount of times just to advance in levels.  -Again with vast majority?

FACT - The MMO market is starting to realize the lack of innovation and creativity and some of the new upcoming titles are proof, This will make WAR and any other WoW cookie-cut level based clone a short lived shelf life!  -I don't see anything that is threatening Warhammer or Warcraft.  I'm pretty certain both will be MMO giants for some time to come.

Im sure all the Warhammer fanbui's will enjoy the game, but to fill your mind with pure fantasies about how WAR is the next WoW killer is not only ridiculous but naive. Although i applaud your "faith" the fact of the matter is, WAR wil not make much of a dent in an already dull and boaring genre that the fantasy MMO has become!

 

 

I hope Warhammer is not a WoW killer.  The last thing MMOs need is yet another game completly dominating the market.