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vernd  8/18/08 12:30:41 PM

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Originally posted by Locklain

The level cap that is in place also as a test strategy.  Narrow down the areas that people can be in will insure that there will be TONS in one place.  I have no idea why everyone wants to see what rank they can get to when the servers will be wiped anyway.

 

Well if you're only there for a free ride you have to get your time's worth!

 
tuzalov  8/18/08 12:33:07 PM

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"Our birth is nothing but our death begun."

Originally posted by Vyeth

I just went to a website and they mispelled Warhammer... Thats it.. i have had enough.. I just canceled my CE edition.. I cannot handle all this mis-spelling of important words.. I just won't stand by and take this anymore.. I am far too important for people to mis-spell words on me.. This is unacceptable guys.. If you guys are still going to play ths game after this, then you obviously are incompetent of understanding the difference between good games and bad..

 

LMFAO this totaly made my day,I bet this guy has every customer service rep on speed dial

 

BTW FP is freaking flying getting 1.1mb/s

 
gestalt11  8/18/08 12:34:30 PM

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Originally posted by Locklain

How long do you people think you "deserve" for open beta?  Do you know what open beta is for?  It is not in place for the cheap bastards to have a free ride in a game and once its up to cancel and move on to the next free ride.  Open beta is there to stress test the servers before launch to make sure the servers can handle the amount of people.

The level cap that is in place also as a test strategy.  Narrow down the areas that people can be in will insure that there will be TONS in one place.  I have no idea why everyone wants to see what rank they can get to when the servers will be wiped anyway.

 

That is all well and fine.  But without other infomation and in the context of other marketing but no confirmation due to the NDA it is also a very good way to deceive and bait and switch people.

 

Many people also look at the Open Beta as a way to see if the Devs are really doing what they say they are doing. 

 

I have a low opinion of the Open Beta process.  But I also have a low opinion of the MMO reviewers.  We need look no farther than AoC's reviews to see just how badly badly off they are.

 

So we need some way to verify what the real state of the game is.  And the limits on the OB, however practical and reasonable, are also clear obstructions to this.

 

So we either need the NDA lifted or we need a longer and less restricted Open Beta.  Otherwise we are simply being chumps.

 

I do not really see why a long and unrestricted Open Beta is in Mythics business interests.  But they need to give us some way to vet things otherwise this is all just marketing sleight of hand.  And I post that with the intention of implying the sneakiness and misdirection that it does.

 

Their is an NDA.  There is purposely hidden and incomplete knowledge.  We have to use a functional approach.  If they walk like a duck and quack like a duck we must assume its a duck until they show us their duck costumes.

 

When they show me their duck costume then that will be fine.  Until then if they do weasel things then they are weasels.

 
Locklain  8/18/08 12:37:12 PM

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Originally posted by nephren25

yea i really dont understand the whole not lifting the nda yet like MJ said. im a tester and they have nothing to hide.  i wish they would have lifted it a long time ago so i could tell ppl about it. post SS and movies

They have a few things they wanted sorted out.  I can name a few of them but since the NDA is still flying around you will have to find them yourself 

 
altairzq  8/18/08 12:37:48 PM

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So that's 11 days of lifted NDA? That'd put the confidence level at 1.5 for the great MJ.

 
vernd  8/18/08 12:37:52 PM

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Originally posted by gestalt11
Originally posted by Locklain

How long do you people think you "deserve" for open beta?  Do you know what open beta is for?  It is not in place for the cheap bastards to have a free ride in a game and once its up to cancel and move on to the next free ride.  Open beta is there to stress test the servers before launch to make sure the servers can handle the amount of people.

The level cap that is in place also as a test strategy.  Narrow down the areas that people can be in will insure that there will be TONS in one place.  I have no idea why everyone wants to see what rank they can get to when the servers will be wiped anyway.

 

That is all well and fine.  But without other infomation and in the context of other marketing but no confirmation due to the NDA it is also a very good way to deceive and bait and switch people.

 

Many people also look at the Open Beta as a way to see if the Devs are really doing what they say they are doing. 

 

I have a low opinion of the Open Beta process.  But I also have a low opinion of the MMO reviewers.  We need look no farther than AoC's reviews to see just how badly badly off they are.

 

So we need some way to verify what the real state of the game is.  And the limits on the OB, however practical and reasonable, are also clear obstructions to this.

 

So we either need the NDA lifted or we need a longer and less restricted Open Beta.  Otherwise we are simply being chumps.

 

I do not really see why a long and unrestricted Open Beta is in Mythics business interests.  But they need to give us some way to vet things otherwise this is all just marketing sleight of hand.  And I post that with the intention of implying the sneakiness and misdirection that it does.

 

Their is an NDA.  There is purposely hidden and incomplete knowledge.  We have to use a functional approach.  If they walk like a duck and quack like a duck we must assume its a duck until they show us their duck costumes.

 

When they show me their duck costume then that will be fine.  Until then if they do weasel things then they are weasels.

See what happens tomorrow when the NDA drops then. ;)

 
dinanm3atl  8/18/08 12:38:18 PM

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Lots of whiners.

 

Geesh!

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Bring back the OLD UO so I can play again

Zhauric  8/18/08 12:38:42 PM

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Eh, it's understandable the concerns some have after what they went through with Funcom. The differences have been stated though. One, the NDA will be lifted soon. I believe this week was their aim. Two, the little tidbits whether through leak or by testers saying what they are capable of under the NDA differs. With AoC folks were not sounding very positive while WAR's have been sounding the complete opposite. Both are important factors especially the NDA. So saying they have something to hide is a stretch. AoC never lifted it's NDA while Mythic will be doing so shortly so you can hear straight from other gamers.

Edit: Oh and stop the comparisons on the 20 levels in open beta. AoC has 80 levels while Mythic is 40. So you're talking a whole different stage in these games at that point.

 
butters88  8/18/08 12:39:46 PM

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Originally posted by Myrdek
Originally posted by Locklain
Nah, let them cancel.  One less person complaining in game makes for a better experience.

 

Look at all the posts I made on this forum and see if I'm a complainer, I'm just a smart customer


 

lol, smart? Basing your pre-order and decision on whether to play or not on the amount of time you get in open beta is smart? Wow... no further comment. 

mbd1968  8/18/08 12:40:57 PM