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bcrankshaw  8/19/08 3:27:00 PM

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Originally posted by daylight01
Originally posted by bcrankshaw

Such negativity about Vanguard ...shame on you :)

 

I'm confused ...the models don't  meet everyones expectations.Soooo....do you play a game based on what your character looks  like ?.Doesn't the game play ,questing ,world lore and general immersive factor of a game make a difference ?Doesn't the excitement of flying mounts and dozens of dungeons and ruins to explore matter ?

Guys I'm an avid  player of Vanguard and I can say  with absolute conviction that the game is brilliant ...but if what matters to you is how your character looks then yes ...its a terrible choice for a MMO game .

Later :)

 

who is judging the game play etc?this thread was about the new models and nothing more,They are disappointing and not what I was expecting,no need to defend the game at all costs here just the models,save the VG rocks posts for another thread.....
 


 

I nearly thought you were right and I was defending the game for no reason....after all this is a discussion  about models and aesthetics..but then I went back to the responses and saw comments like ..." no way am I trying this game "...." they like Funcom ...liars "

So this post is not just about the models but people perceptions of the game  :)

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Blighter214  8/19/08 3:51:09 PM

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I swear it was said somewhere that they were only getting a slight boost to look a little more heroic and nothing more. And that's what I see here. Were you guys expecting totally different models? I'm seeing quite a lot of overreacting here.

 
Umbral  8/19/08 4:10:33 PM

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Originally posted by metalhead980

The graphics look fine!

What the hell happened to you people?

Since when are graphics all we care about?

I miss the days MMO players cared about features not if the god damn avatars are plastic looking.

Vanguard looks like an improved version of EQ2 graphics thats good for an MMO.

It's impossible with todays technology to make a MMO look like crysis with hundreds of players on screen.

 


 

Even the devs already said the original characters werent good, werent heroic etc.

Everyone waited for months to realise that the only real change was the size of muscles.

EQ2 characters have better anymations, matches the landscapes and have much more life.

Everyone was expecting more, if you read what the devs said about the changes you would be disappointed to.

It is all about art style and promisses, not about graphics

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Umbral  8/19/08 4:17:36 PM

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Originally posted by Blighter214

I swear it was said somewhere that they were only getting a slight boost to look a little more heroic and nothing more. And that's what I see here. Were you guys expecting totally different models? I'm seeing quite a lot of overreacting here.


So, the definition of heroic is not more expressive, just bigger arms?

No one is overreacting, the art style of these characters is bad, we were expecting a more expressive version of the lifeless Vanguard characters, not the same characters with bigger biceps...months and months for this?

I m a former Vanguard player, I enjoied the game, but I always had the impression Vanguard would never expand and grow, just get some fixes, and I was right.

Why pay every moth for a game that will never expand? They cant even improve what need to be improved.

Just compare Vanguard charactes with any other MMO, compare these characters with all Vanguard´s monters and creatures, character models were bad and still bad.

 

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Blighter214  8/19/08 4:28:51 PM

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No, and I'm not saying they couldn't have done better...because they obviously could have, but it's not that bad. I wish they'd make the animalistic races more...animalistic. But I still don't think it's that bad. Maybe it's because i just don't have a problem with the way the character models currently are, i think they're just fine and pretty nice looking as is, and isn't a game-breaking disaster. And i think the Dark Elves actually do look a bit more expressive than the current ones.

And I dont know about EQ2's models...my iksar always had this chest piece glitch where his chest would show through while moving...it was there at launch and was still there at the beginning of this year...which, EQ2's engine is just painful anyways.

...aren't they also bringing back the customization options?

 
mike470  8/19/08 4:31:49 PM

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Originally posted by bcrankshaw

Such negativity about Vanguard ...shame on you :)

 

I'm confused ...the models don't  meet everyones expectations.Soooo....do you play a game based on what your character looks  like ?


 

Vanguard is a good game, but still, you're missing the update.  When people heard about the character model revamp (which were, and still, are ugly) they expected a "ressurection" of Vanguard.  They were beginning to think that SOE cared enough to put time into Vanguard and make it a success.

This update was a dream crusher (for myself and probably others).  It is just clear that SOE doesn't care anymore.  If these character models were good looking, it would show to me (and others) that SOE is willing to put more time and money into the future of Vangaurd.

Apparently they won't.  Until SOE proves otherwise, they will not be seeing my $15.

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mike470  8/19/08 4:37:03 PM

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Originally posted by Blighter214

No, and I'm not saying they couldn't have done better...because they obviously could have, but it's not that bad. I wish they'd make the animalistic races more...animalistic. But I still don't think it's that bad. Maybe it's because i just don't have a problem with the way the character models currently are, i think they're just fine and pretty nice looking as is, and isn't a game-breaking disaster. And i think the Dark Elves actually do look a bit more expressive than the current ones.


 

You're looking at the graphics, I am looking past that.  I am looking at the future of Vanguard while in SOE's hands, and it doesn't lok good.  With this update, it just seems more clear that SOE will not give Vanguard the attention it rightfully deserves.  Vanguard has so much potential, but SOE just won't give it the attention it deserves, and this update just proves my point.

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Kurush  8/19/08 4:39:16 PM

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Originally posted by Duilyon

http://vanguard.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=975

 

 

Enjoy.

 

This kinds reminds me of the Strongbad e-mail where he creates the S is for Sux dragon.

"Then you add some legs.  Throw on a couple of arms.  Then you . . .   whoa.  I think I need to start over."

 
tryklon  8/19/08 4:44:34 PM

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well, maybe this update is not just bringing a whole set of diferent models, but some models improvement and character detail improvement, i mean, the way characters walk and run just seems so fake, so doll like, i hope to see some diference there and besides some minor graphical update i wanna see much better and realistic movement and jumping and animations, etc

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