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doomicon  8/21/08 1:18:57 PM

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Sorry couldn't resist with all the Wow vs. WAR posts.  Two different games, no point to argue :-)

 

 
Squirlmaster  8/21/08 1:20:29 PM

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Baseball > all

Abrahmm  8/21/08 1:21:44 PM

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Originally posted by doomicon

Sorry couldn't resist with all the Wow vs. WAR posts.  Two different games, no point to argue :-)

 

 

Actually, a more appropriate analogy would have been "Baseball vs. Softball" since both games are very similar but slightly different.

Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Jumpgate Evolution, Earthrise, Fallen Earth, anything sandbox.

Magsato  8/21/08 1:22:51 PM

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A more accurate description would be Rugby, is it the  Football killer. Football and Baseball are different games types.

 

It would be like saying Madden 09, is it the GTA IV killer.

 
Raztor  8/21/08 1:22:52 PM

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EQ-WoW raider

Originally posted by Squirlmaster

Baseball > all

 

20km Speed walking is more exciting than watching baseball.

 

 
mcharj11  8/21/08 1:25:19 PM

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Football (proper football where you actually kick the ball) is one of the biggest sports in the world, bigger than any of the US sports.

Anyway baseball is one of the most boring sports i have ever seen, it's like watching paint dry...

 
jakkars  8/21/08 1:25:59 PM

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R.I.P Funcom, hope you will rest with your lies.

Osmosis is the diffusion of a solvent (frequently water) through a semi-permeable membrane, from a solution of low solute concentration (high water potential) to a solution with high solute concentration (low water potential), up a solute concentration gradient.[1] It is a physical process in which a solvent moves, without input of energy, across a semi-permeable membrane (permeable to the solvent, but not the solute) separating two solutions of different concentrations.[2] Osmosis releases energy, and can be made to do work, as when a growing tree-root splits a stone.

 
 
Shot of a computer simulation of the process of osmosis

Net movement of solvent is from the less-concentrated (hypotonic) to the more-concentrated (hypertonic) solution, which tends to reduce the difference in concentrations. This effect can be countered by increasing the pressure of the hypertonic solution, with respect to the hypotonic. The osmotic pressure is defined to be the pressure required to maintain an equilibrium, with no net movement of solvent. Osmotic pressure is a colligative property, meaning that the property depends on the molar concentration of the solute but not on its identity.

Osmosis is important in biological systems as many biological membranes are semipermeable. In general, these membranes are impermeable to organic solutes with large molecules, such as polysaccharides, while permeable to water and small, uncharged solutes. Permeability may depend on solubility properties, charge, or chemistry as well as solute size. Water molecules travel through the plasma cell wall, tonoplast (vacuole) or protoplast in two ways, either by diffusing across the phospholipid bilayer directly, or via aquaporins (small transmembrane proteins similar to those in facilitated diffusion and in creating ion channels). Osmosis provides the primary means by which water is transported into and out of cells. The turgor pressure of a cell is largely maintained by osmosis, across the cell membrane, between the cell interior and its relatively hypotonic environment.[3]

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[edit] Basic explanation

Osmosis may occur when there is a partially-permeable membrane, such as a cell membrane. When a cell is submerged in a glass of water, the water molecules pass through the cell membrane from an area of low solute concentration (outside the cell) to one of high solute concentration (inside the cell), this is called osmosis. The cell membrane is selectively permeable, so only necessary materials are let into the cell and waste left out.[4]

When the membrane is in a volume of pure water on both sides, water molecules pass in each direction at the same rate; there is no net flow of water through the membrane. However, if there is a solution on one side, and pure water on the other, the membrane is still hit by molecules from both sides at the same rate. However, some of the molecules hitting the membrane from the solution side will be solute molecules, and these will not pass through the membrane. So water molecules pass through the membrane from this side at a slower rate. This will result in a net flow of water to the side with the solution. Assuming the membrane does not break, this net flow will slow and finally stop as the pressure on the solution side becomes such that the movement in each direction is equal: dynamic equilibrium. This could either be due to the water potential on both sides of the membrane being the same, or due to osmosis being inhibited by factors such as pressure potential or Osmotic pressure.

Osmosis can also be explained using the notion of entropy, from statistical mechanics. As above, suppose a permeable membrane separates equal amounts of pure solvent and a solution. Since a solution possesses more entropy than pure solvent, the second law of thermodynamics states that solvent molecules will flow into the solution until the entropy of the combined system is maximized. Notice that, as this happens, the solvent loses entropy while the solution gains entropy. Equilibrium, hence maximum entropy, is achieved when the entropy gradient becomes zero, and disolution takes place.

[edit] Examples of osmosis

 
 
Effect of different solutions on blood cells
 
 
Plant cell under different environments

Osmotic pressure is the main cause of support in many plants. The osmotic entry of water raises the turgor pressure exerted against the cell wall, until it equals the osmotic pressure, creating a steady state.

When a plant cell is placed in a hypertonic solution, the water in the cells moves to an area higher in solute concentration, and the cell shrinks and so becomes flaccid. (This means the cell has become plasmolysed - the cell membrane has completely left the cell wall due to lack of water pressure on it; the opposite of turgid.)

Also, osmosis is responsible for the ability of plant roots to suck up water from the soil. Since there are many fine roots, they have a large surface area; water enters the roots by osmosis.

Osmosis can also be seen very effectively when potato slices are added to a high concentration of salt solution. The water from inside the potato moves to the salt solution, causing the potato to shrink and to lose its 'turgor pressure'. The more concentrated the salt solution, the bigger the difference in size and weight of the potato slice.

In unusual environments, osmosis can be very harmful to organisms. For example, freshwater and saltwater aquarium fish placed in water of a different salinity than that they are adapted to will die quickly, and in the case of saltwater fish, dramatically. Another example of a harmful osmotic effect is the use of table salt to kill leeches and slugs.

Suppose an animal or a plant cell is placed in a solution of sugar or salt in water.
 

  1. If the medium is hypotonic — a dilute solution, with a higher water concentration than the cell — the cell will gain water through osmosis.
  2. If the medium is isotonic — a solution with exactly the same water concentration as the cell — there will be no net movement of water across the cell membrane.
  3. If the medium is hypertonic — a concentrated solution, with a lower water concentration than the cell — the cell will lose water by osmosis.

So basically, if a cell is put in a solution which is more concentrated than its own, then it will shrivel up, and if it is put in a solution less concentrated than its own, the cell will expand and burst.

Chemical gardens demonstrate the effect of osmosis in inorganic chemistry.

[edit] Osmotic pressure

Main article: Osmotic Pressure

As mentioned before, osmosis may be opposed by increasing the pressure in the region of high solute concentration with respect to that in the low solute concentration region. The force per unit area, or pressure, required to prevent the passage of water through a selectively-permeable membrane and into a solution of greater concentration is equivalent to the osmotic pressure of the solution, or turgor. Osmotic pressure is a colligative property, meaning that the property depends on the concentration of the solute but not on its identity.

Increasing the pressure increases the chemical potential of the system in proportion to the molar volume (δμ = δPV). Therefore, osmosis stops when the increase in potential due to pressure equals the potential decrease from

N/A Correction need to be affected on given incorrect equations

 

 
JosephProsek  8/21/08 1:27:22 PM

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I hate poor people.

Originally posted by Raztor
Originally posted by Squirlmaster

Baseball > all

 

20km Speed walking is more exciting than watching baseball.

 

So So true.