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Suplyndmnd  9/04/08 10:33:17 AM

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As someone who has played for a few weeks, i gotta say, he missed the entire point of this game.  Maybe it's because i've always thought this guy was fucking annoying but his reviews are always crap.  I cant even begin to point out the reasons why this guy isn't funny or worthwhile to listen to.

EVE - Sharvala
FFXI - Shazamalicious
Guild Wars - Xavier Lucifer & Charlize the Necro

"Ranged...stuck...tree...15 random words... suck... noob fanboy... I MAKE GUIDE!"

Fir3Splitter  9/04/08 6:18:17 PM

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Well the fact that EVE do not tells you from the start of the game: what to do,where to go,with who you should talk,......and so on, makes this game boring for the newcomers. Therefore EVE is not a game for all. Kids for example they will find this game horrible, boring, stupid....   ....most of them...if not all.

Most people who don`t know what they want to do in eve EVE will quit and make hate threads because there is no "big daddy" who tells what to do.

This game offers you the choice to do whatever you want. As i said before the problem is that people don`t know what they want.

Or...ok...let`s cut to the point: some people just don`t have the necessary  "resources" to understand this game.

EvE does not tell you what to do, EVE do not force you to do something you don`t want and does not limit your choices. This is main reason why EVE is different from other games and it`s the best MMO out there.

The ZP video is funny though.

 
Roin  9/04/08 6:33:01 PM

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1) ZP review, funny

2) I do not like Eve-Online one bit

3) I do think Eve-Online is a good game

The people that keep saying "he missed the point".  Need to lighten up a bit.  It's supposed to be humorous. That is all.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
Best Eve-Online Review Ever!

Bladin  9/04/08 7:57:56 PM

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He didn't miss the point at all.  He was completely spot on.

Eve itself is a very boring game.

"But he didn't join a corp or pvp or didn't play the game for 2 years." whatever.

You can go ahead and play your made up little guilds doing the same things over and over for 2 years, repeating the same cycles over and over.  Just like every single other mmo. While pretending your doing something meaningful and interesting.

God forbid someone actually reviews the game for what it is rather then the people who are in it.

And frankly, to a early poster, yes you eve fanboys are sickening.  I swear, go to any topic in this forum and theres always some post by some eve fanboy saying it's the bees knees.  It gets tiresome.

jh76  9/04/08 8:15:03 PM

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I thought the review was funny as hell and I was laughing my ass off, but the thing is, just because he doesn't understand skills and there is no instant reward, he doesn't like the game. I mean, come on, how shallow is that. He even said he didn't know what two skills meant and the difference between them. All you have to do is read the descriptions which are 1 to 2 sentences long, lol. EvE is not for everyone, and the fact that he puts WoW on somekinda MMO pedestal( or atleast he thinks all MMO's are WoW clones) kinda shows his true MMO exp. IMO, WoW ruined MMO's. Money wise, Blizzard made out, actual advancement in the genre, WoW was a big step backwards. Hence WAR coming out with the cartoony graphics. WAR wont be the last cartoony MMO to be released, thats for sure.

 
Bladin  9/04/08 9:07:50 PM

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Originally posted by jh76

I thought the review was funny as hell and I was laughing my ass off, but the thing is, just because he doesn't understand skills and there is no instant reward, he doesn't like the game. I mean, come on, how shallow is that. He even said he didn't know what two skills meant and the difference between them. All you have to do is read the descriptions which are 1 to 2 sentences long, lol. EvE is not for everyone, and the fact that he puts WoW on somekinda MMO pedestal( or atleast he thinks all MMO's are WoW clones) kinda shows his true MMO exp. IMO, WoW ruined MMO's. Money wise, Blizzard made out, actual advancement in the genre, WoW was a big step backwards. Hence WAR coming out with the cartoony graphics. WAR wont be the last cartoony MMO to be released, thats for sure.

 

1. First off it wasn't because of instant rewards.  If anything the logic of that is flawed, in EVE you can actually not play the game and still progress, hence the "the game that doesn't want you to play it"(or some such).

2. He does understand the skills, it was obviously a jab at the skill system and how the skills are named.  It was obviously a exaggeration for humors sake.

3. Wow deserves to be on a pedestal, because it doesn't beat people across the head with a baseball bat for trying to play it.  With the "fans" and "hardcore" claiming it as revolutionary, and "true skill". When in reality your fighting the games systems. 

4. Most mmo are wow clones.  Look at the games after wow was released? lotro? aoc? war?(sorry but i was in beta, and as the devs say its more of a evolution then revolution)

5. Blizzard saved the genre. It was basically a sick dead horse, that a few devs came out from the shadows and took a few whacks at the corpse, but that's basically what was happening.  WoW was a big step forward.  It proved that mmos can be successful and can be fun without adding in a needless layer of suck and self hatred. 

The problem is, that dev's are simply cashing in on wows style, and releasing before they are ready for a cheap buck, or to recoup dev costs they weren't prepared for.

If it wasn't for wow, most investors wouldn't touch the market with a 100 ft long pole.

6. Cartoony graphics?  I suppose you could call it that, WAR and WoW share similarities because they both stem from... WARHAMMER.  thats original what warcraft was going to be, a warhammer game. Their style evolved their own way from that base, and WAR is based around wars own evolution.

But being photorealistic/dark/grainy/high quality graphics aren't exactly a good thing.

Look at the state AoC is in, because of their choice for graphics.

 

EduardoASG  9/05/08 3:58:25 AM

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Actually thats one of the best reviews i ever read/heard about Eve Online and the reviewer is a genious in my opinion.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online

AoC, AC, AO, DAoC, DDO, Entropy, Eve, Eq2, GW, MW3 [SL], L1, L2, RF, SWG, TR, UO, WOW, WAR

Gramis  9/05/08 4:37:50 AM

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Originally posted by Bladin
Originally posted by jh76

I thought the review was funny as hell and I was laughing my ass off, but the thing is, just because he doesn't understand skills and there is no instant reward, he doesn't like the game. I mean, come on, how shallow is that. He even said he didn't know what two skills meant and the difference between them. All you have to do is read the descriptions which are 1 to 2 sentences long, lol. EvE is not for everyone, and the fact that he puts WoW on somekinda MMO pedestal( or atleast he thinks all MMO's are WoW clones) kinda shows his true MMO exp. IMO, WoW ruined MMO's. Money wise, Blizzard made out, actual advancement in the genre, WoW was a big step backwards. Hence WAR coming out with the cartoony graphics. WAR wont be the last cartoony MMO to be released, thats for sure.

 

1. First off it wasn't because of instant rewards.  If anything the logic of that is flawed, in EVE you can actually not play the game and still progress, hence the "the game that doesn't want you to play it"(or some such).

2. He does understand the skills, it was obviously a jab at the skill system and how the skills are named.  It was obviously a exaggeration for humors sake.

3. Wow deserves to be on a pedestal, because it doesn't beat people across the head with a baseball bat for trying to play it.  With the "fans" and "hardcore" claiming it as revolutionary, and "true skill". When in reality your fighting the games systems. 

4. Most mmo are wow clones.  Look at the games after wow was released? lotro? aoc? war?(sorry but i was in beta, and as the devs say its more of a evolution then revolution)

5. Blizzard saved the genre. It was basically a sick dead horse, that a few devs came out from the shadows and took a few whacks at the corpse, but that's basically what was happening.  WoW was a big step forward.  It proved that mmos can be successful and can be fun without adding in a needless layer of suck and self hatred. 

The problem is, that dev's are simply cashing in on wows style, and releasing before they are ready for a cheap buck, or to recoup dev costs they weren't prepared for.

If it wasn't for wow, most investors wouldn't touch the market with a 100 ft long pole.

6. Cartoony graphics?  I suppose you could call it that, WAR and WoW share similarities because they both stem from... WARHAMMER.  thats original what warcraft was going to be, a warhammer game. Their style evolved their own way from that base, and WAR is based around wars own evolution.

But being photorealistic/dark/grainy/high quality graphics aren't exactly a good thing.

Look at the state AoC is in, because of their choice for graphics.

 


 

You go girl! Show those rabid EvE fanbois how crappy their choice of the game is and how great WoW and its clones are.

/sarcasm off

You obviously dont like or get  Eve and you also fail to comprehend that you cant really compare it to WoW or its clones - they different type of games (its like comparing a normal car with a race car ). Much like that guy reviewing it in zero punctuation. Funny but very unrealistic.

 
Meridion  9/05/08 10:33:00 AM

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