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Lepidus  6/03/06 4:25:08 PM

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Staff Writers Laura Genender and Carolyn Koh threw them down today to argue how important tradeskills are to female gamers. Every Saturday, we hope to bring you a new debate. If you have any ideas, post them in the comment thread.

Laura Genender: One thing I've always hated in MMOs is when people assume that, just because I'm a female gamer, I should be really into the tradeskills and crafting aspect of the game. Personally, I've always avoided crafting skills like the plague; even in craft-centric games like A Tale in the Desert I spent more of my time working with flower genetics and exploring the desert than I did at the loom or the kitchen.

Like many aspects in MMOs, I think that crafting and tradeskills are often projected as a "woman thing" just because that's what "women do in real life." We cook. We sew and embroider. If there was a Pregnancy skill in EverQuest, I'm sure that would be highlighted as a big draw to the woman market.

You can read the full debate here.

 
Jackdog  6/03/06 4:32:10 PM

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As a male I don't see what crafting has to do with ones sex or sexual orientation. I won't play a game unless it has worthwhile crafting. I also like having a in game house to decorate with trophies. That could be a carry over from real life though. I do oil painting, have a complete woodworking and stained glass workshop and enjoy building furniture and landscaping. Oh and occasionally I sleep.

ArtifacT  6/03/06 4:56:10 PM

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Originally posted by Jackdog

As a male I don't see what crafting has to do with ones sex or sexual orientation. I won't play a game unless it has worthwhile crafting. I also like having a in game house to decorate with trophies. That could be a carry over from real life though. I do oil painting, have a complete woodworking and stained glass workshop and enjoy building furniture and landscaping. Oh and occasionally I sleep.



im the same way about games.... i dont play WOW cuz it doesnt have player houses and people say the crafting really doesnt matter much (this is one of the reasons i loved SWG so much) one thing tho in swg most of the entertainers were expected to be women.... or at least a female character ;)
 
Drakonus  6/03/06 5:35:29 PM

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I personally don't know why anyone would think sex would have anything to do with tradeskills.  As a guy I know just as many female gamers that are just as much into the battle/quest/mission side of thing as any guy, and put the tradeskills secondary (for support).  Of course that what I've observed of the female player I've played with, and they all pretty much kick a** .
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Valentina  6/03/06 5:44:15 PM

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"It''s not true that I had nothing on, I had the radio on!" - Marilyn Monroe

I'm a female gamer, and I HATE crafting, ewwww!!!!!! :(

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shava  6/03/06 5:47:54 PM

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whether or not gender has to do with tradeskilling, I know the guilds I've been in do have a preponderance of women who tradeskill, disproportionate to the percentage of men who do (even knowing rl genders...:).

However, I can tell you that I, as a woman of a certain age, sometime really like tradeskilling in game rather than, oh, knitting in RL partly because I can do that sort of meditative repetitive stuff that handwork entails, avoid really ugly sound effects of things dying, and not have to spend money on materials or clean up.  And people still say "ooo shiny!" at the end product (and generally, I never have to look at the thing a year later and still see all the little mistakes!).

Is this female-ish?  Dunno.  I was born in the 50's, and just being a gamer grrl at all in the 70's was weird enough.  In fact I used to come to wargaming with a crochet project or somesuch for the long downtimes in miniatures games.  You can talk and fiddle yarn at the same time.

I like going both ways -- adventuring and crafting. 

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Cola  6/03/06 5:49:50 PM

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The best and most precise crafters I have personally dealt with in mmorpgs have been male.

Not stating anything but my own personal experience

 
Drakonus  6/03/06 6:12:33 PM

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Originally posted by shava
whether or not gender has to do with tradeskilling, I know the guilds I've been in do have a preponderance of women who tradeskill, disproportionate to the percentage of men who do (even knowing rl genders...:).

However, I can tell you that I, as a woman of a certain age, sometime really like tradeskilling in game rather than, oh, knitting in RL partly because I can do that sort of meditative repetitive stuff that handwork entails, avoid really ugly sound effects of things dying, and not have to spend money on materials or clean up.  And people still say "ooo shiny!" at the end product (and generally, I never have to look at the thing a year later and still see all the little mistakes!).

Is this female-ish?  Dunno.  I was born in the 50's, and just being a gamer grrl at all in the 70's was weird enough.  In fact I used to come to wargaming with a crochet project or somesuch for the long downtimes in miniatures games.  You can talk and fiddle yarn at the same time.

I like going both ways -- adventuring and crafting. 

Shava



Not to mention what ever you did craft in-game you could turn-around and sell it in-game for big bucks...LOL.  Hmm...I may need to give it more of a chance...LOL

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Toothman  6/03/06 6:41:58 PM

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In my Guild we have more women than most guilds and 99% of them are combat oriented.  Its the guys who all have a crafter alt.  Personally  I find that while the combat is fun it gets dull after awhile and my crafting alt is something that I  can always turn to when blowing stuff up gets dull.  The endless search for better resources means there is always a goal I can work for no matter what else is going on.
 
osiloa  6/03/06 6:42:11 PM