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Originally posted by RedwoodSap

I was watching G4 just now and they reviewed Vanguard and called it "Saga of broken quests".

They also said it required a Nasa liquid cooled rocket engine to run effectively.

G4 is cheese. I don't even bother with that channel. It's not a reliable source for mmorpg information. I stopped watching them once they starting  using those hot so-called ..gamer girls with big thingies......cheese.

cheese..cheese..cheese

MMORPG.com is a BIG LOTRO fan.  Review = 8.5 (yeah right)

MMORPG.com does not like VG.  Review = 6.9

It all makes sense guys... don't worry

Vanguard takes time...it's a thinking mans/womans game. It's for people who like to think and those who appreciate an huge, deep, complicated world. It's steak in a world of fast food....not perfectly cooked..yet..mind ya..but a steak none the less. 

A Thinking Mans game?

I don't think so.

Slow and Mindless is more like it.

And not every game crashes you to your desktop every hour.

I have played Guild Wars and LOTRO and niether of those games have the problems Vanguard does which I have also played.

If you're to blind to see whats right in front of your face maybe you shouldn't read reviews of Vanguard you will only be upset.

This game isn't that good plain and simple, maybe next year but for now it's not worth the money.

Originally posted by matraque

MMORPG.com is a BIG LOTRO fan.  Review = 8.5 (yeah right)

MMORPG.com does not like VG.  Review = 6.9

It all makes sense guys... don't worry

Take a look at the dozens of other reviews both games have received and you'll find out that MMORPG.com is rating them both just like the rest.

Originally posted by JonMichael

 

Originally posted by matraque

MMORPG.com is a BIG LOTRO fan.  Review = 8.5 (yeah right)

MMORPG.com does not like VG.  Review = 6.9

It all makes sense guys... don't worry

Bet you wouldn't have said that if the numbers were the other way around! 

 

Take a look at the dozens of other reviews both games have received and you'll find out that MMORPG.com is rating them both just like the rest.

 

But, it appears that LOTRO is getting it's fair share of criticism atm.  Go look on the board!

Originally posted by Stradden

MMORPG.com Community Manager, Laura Genender, takes a look at the world of Telon in her review of Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.

Explaining Vanguard inevitably leads to explaining Vanguard's community. So, let's just start with it: yes, the game and the forums/fansites that support it are plagued with 'Fanbois' vs 'Haters' - the most heated faction warfare I have ever witnessed. Here, though, the rule of 'vocal minority' is in effect, and if you stay off of the forums and out of general chat, the majority of players are quiet and friendly (if you're not on a PvP server!).

According to unconfirmed sources like MMOGData.com, the Vanguard community is shrinking: what at launch had featured around 200k subscribers was down below 50k by May of '07. The PvP and Roleplay server populations are still rather steady, but the "normal servers" are practically ghost towns. When I created a character to explore one of those servers, I ran into another newbie who boldly stated "you're the 3rd person I've seen so far!"

Read the whole review here.

The most fair way to review and comment on a game is to review it when its released and then write an update of sorts a few months later.  I wonder what VG's rating would have been when it was released?

Originally posted by Ginaz

 

Originally posted by Stradden

MMORPG.com Community Manager, Laura Genender, takes a look at the world of Telon in her review of Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.

Explaining Vanguard inevitably leads to explaining Vanguard's community. So, let's just start with it: yes, the game and the forums/fansites that support it are plagued with 'Fanbois' vs 'Haters' - the most heated faction warfare I have ever witnessed. Here, though, the rule of 'vocal minority' is in effect, and if you stay off of the forums and out of general chat, the majority of players are quiet and friendly (if you're not on a PvP server!).

According to unconfirmed sources like MMOGData.com, the Vanguard community is shrinking: what at launch had featured around 200k subscribers was down below 50k by May of '07. The PvP and Roleplay server populations are still rather steady, but the "normal servers" are practically ghost towns. When I created a character to explore one of those servers, I ran into another newbie who boldly stated "you're the 3rd person I've seen so far!"

Read the whole review here.

This review really doesn't mean much since they've had 6 months to patch and fix it.  Is it this website's policy to only review games after the devs have had a chance to fix their mistakes?  Is that fair to the people that were looking for a review here when VG was released?  Does mmorpg.com have this kind of review policy for other games or was VG treated differently?  Whats the reason you people waited so long to write a review?

 

The most fair way to review and comment on a game is to review it when its released and then write an update of sorts a few months later.  I wonder what VG's rating would have been when it was released?

The damage is already done when people have wasted both money and time on a poor quality MMOG. Let's try and review a game within the first month of release from now on please and update as needed.

Originally posted by Ginaz

 

Originally posted by Stradden

MMORPG.com Community Manager, Laura Genender, takes a look at the world of Telon in her review of Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.

Explaining Vanguard inevitably leads to explaining Vanguard's community. So, let's just start with it: yes, the game and the forums/fansites that support it are plagued with 'Fanbois' vs 'Haters' - the most heated faction warfare I have ever witnessed. Here, though, the rule of 'vocal minority' is in effect, and if you stay off of the forums and out of general chat, the majority of players are quiet and friendly (if you're not on a PvP server!).

According to unconfirmed sources like MMOGData.com, the Vanguard community is shrinking: what at launch had featured around 200k subscribers was down below 50k by May of '07. The PvP and Roleplay server populations are still rather steady, but the "normal servers" are practically ghost towns. When I created a character to explore one of those servers, I ran into another newbie who boldly stated "you're the 3rd person I've seen so far!"

Read the whole review here.

This review really doesn't mean much since they've had 6 months to patch and fix it.  Is it this website's policy to only review games after the devs have had a chance to fix their mistakes?  Is that fair to the people that were looking for a review here when VG was released?  Does mmorpg.com have this kind of review policy for other games or was VG treated differently?  Whats the reason you people waited so long to write a review?

 

The most fair way to review and comment on a game is to review it when its released and then write an update of sorts a few months later.  I wonder what VG's rating would have been when it was released?

Actually, we have had this assigned to writers a number of times since launch.  Unfortunately,  circumstances beyond our control led to these not being completed. After that, it was assigned to Laura, who ultimately completed it.

Should it have been done sooner? Probably. Mistakes happen.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Originally posted by Ginaz

 

Originally posted by Stradden

MMORPG.com Community Manager, Laura Genender, takes a look at the world of Telon in her review of Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.

Explaining Vanguard inevitably leads to explaining Vanguard's community. So, let's just start with it: yes, the game and the forums/fansites that support it are plagued with 'Fanbois' vs 'Haters' - the most heated faction warfare I have ever witnessed. Here, though, the rule of 'vocal minority' is in effect, and if you stay off of the forums and out of general chat, the majority of players are quiet and friendly (if you're not on a PvP server!).

According to unconfirmed sources like MMOGData.com, the Vanguard community is shrinking: what at launch had featured around 200k subscribers was down below 50k by May of '07. The PvP and Roleplay server populations are still rather steady, but the "normal servers" are practically ghost towns. When I created a character to explore one of those servers, I ran into another newbie who boldly stated "you're the 3rd person I've seen so far!"

Read the whole review here.

This review really doesn't mean much since they've had 6 months to patch and fix it.  Is it this website's policy to only review games after the devs have had a chance to fix their mistakes?  Is that fair to the