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Questionable  4/12/08 2:12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by Questionable

 

Originally posted by Zorvan

 

Originally posted by Questionable
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by Questionable
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by krackajap

If you think LoD is a no-name guild then you've been playing the wrong games.

Been playing games 20+ years, never heard of 'em before this "Asp" crap. So to me, there a no-name guild. You act like these guys are supposed to be something special, warranting credibility to all of this in some way. Please, by all means, feel free to elaborate.


Must you always be this arrogant. It never comes across your mind that maybe YOUR the "no-name" one in this.

Take a look through most of your posts, then get back to me on that one.


I only act like that to those who feel the need to act superior to others. I'll be honest I've heard a lot more of them than of you so perhaps you should take a look at the second part of the statement.

Is LoD making darkfall? Is Asp making Darkfall? Does Asp have anything to show other than his word that he has seen and played Darkfall? Then Asp and LoD have no credibility as far as Darkfall is concerned at this point. So, when all is said and done at this point in time concerning Darkfall, LoD and Asp are nobodies.

 

As far as acting superior, who says I'm acting?

 

That is exactly why their considered credible sources. An apparently long standing guild and a long time member has played the game with which has quite a reputation from what I've read which begins back to UO. Whether you've heard of him is really irrelevant since he IS known and trusted by other guilds.

Also did that make much sense? I mean if they were making the game then they'd be devs and isn't anything new.

Though lets pretend that he did lie and what did he gain? Nothing but his 15 mins of fame. If you want to challenge his credibility then by all means do but don't base it on "I've never heard of him so...".

Judging by responses, I'm not the only one who has never heard of them and gives them no credence. But, I'll let it go for now.

Not everyone has heard of everyone but there are also others who have but if they still believe that their part of some sick joke then who do they believe?

 
Burnthebed  4/12/08 5:42:59 PM

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Originally posted by Questionable

 

Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by Questionable

 

Originally posted by Zorvan

 

Originally posted by Questionable
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by Questionable
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by krackajap

If you think LoD is a no-name guild then you've been playing the wrong games.

Been playing games 20+ years, never heard of 'em before this "Asp" crap. So to me, there a no-name guild. You act like these guys are supposed to be something special, warranting credibility to all of this in some way. Please, by all means, feel free to elaborate.


Must you always be this arrogant. It never comes across your mind that maybe YOUR the "no-name" one in this.

Take a look through most of your posts, then get back to me on that one.


I only act like that to those who feel the need to act superior to others. I'll be honest I've heard a lot more of them than of you so perhaps you should take a look at the second part of the statement.

Is LoD making darkfall? Is Asp making Darkfall? Does Asp have anything to show other than his word that he has seen and played Darkfall? Then Asp and LoD have no credibility as far as Darkfall is concerned at this point. So, when all is said and done at this point in time concerning Darkfall, LoD and Asp are nobodies.

 

As far as acting superior, who says I'm acting?

 

That is exactly why their considered credible sources. An apparently long standing guild and a long time member has played the game with which has quite a reputation from what I've read which begins back to UO. Whether you've heard of him is really irrelevant since he IS known and trusted by other guilds.

Also did that make much sense? I mean if they were making the game then they'd be devs and isn't anything new.

Though lets pretend that he did lie and what did he gain? Nothing but his 15 mins of fame. If you want to challenge his credibility then by all means do but don't base it on "I've never heard of him so...".

Judging by responses, I'm not the only one who has never heard of them and gives them no credence. But, I'll let it go for now.

 

Not everyone has heard of everyone but there are also others who have but if they still believe that their part of some sick joke then who do they believe?

I've never heard of LoD and I've never heard of Asp outside of his article about DF. He is not a credible part of the media, he does not work for a gaming magazine, he does not work for gaming telivision, he does not work for a gaming website. All he is is the leader of a guild that SOME people have heard of is some OTHER games that are not DF. I don't trust his word, especially since his article came with 0 in game screen shots.

You cannot change my opinion, and I'm sure you can't change Zorvan's. Just because you've somehow heard of LoD, and trust them does not mean the rest of us have to. Also, you will NEVER make me listen to you by insulting everything I say and condescending to me in every stupid topic here...all that does is make me ignore your posts when I see your name.

The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.

krackajap  4/12/08 6:26:24 PM

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Originally posted by Burnthebed

 

Originally posted by Questionable

 

Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by Questionable

 

Originally posted by Zorvan

 

Originally posted by Questionable
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by Questionable
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by krackajap

If you think LoD is a no-name guild then you've been playing the wrong games.

Been playing games 20+ years, never heard of 'em before this "Asp" crap. So to me, there a no-name guild. You act like these guys are supposed to be something special, warranting credibility to all of this in some way. Please, by all means, feel free to elaborate.


Must you always be this arrogant. It never comes across your mind that maybe YOUR the "no-name" one in this.

Take a look through most of your posts, then get back to me on that one.


I only act like that to those who feel the need to act superior to others. I'll be honest I've heard a lot more of them than of you so perhaps you should take a look at the second part of the statement.

Is LoD making darkfall? Is Asp making Darkfall? Does Asp have anything to show other than his word that he has seen and played Darkfall? Then Asp and LoD have no credibility as far as Darkfall is concerned at this point. So, when all is said and done at this point in time concerning Darkfall, LoD and Asp are nobodies.

 

As far as acting superior, who says I'm acting?

 

That is exactly why their considered credible sources. An apparently long standing guild and a long time member has played the game with which has quite a reputation from what I've read which begins back to UO. Whether you've heard of him is really irrelevant since he IS known and trusted by other guilds.

Also did that make much sense? I mean if they were making the game then they'd be devs and isn't anything new.

Though lets pretend that he did lie and what did he gain? Nothing but his 15 mins of fame. If you want to challenge his credibility then by all means do but don't base it on "I've never heard of him so...".

Judging by responses, I'm not the only one who has never heard of them and gives them no credence. But, I'll let it go for now.

 

Not everyone has heard of everyone but there are also others who have but if they still believe that their part of some sick joke then who do they believe?

I've never heard of LoD and I've never heard of Asp outside of his article about DF. He is not a credible part of the media, he does not work for a gaming magazine, he does not work for gaming telivision, he does not work for a gaming website. All he is is the leader of a guild that SOME people have heard of is some OTHER games that are not DF. I don't trust his word, especially since his article came with 0 in game screen shots.

 

You cannot change my opinion, and I'm sure you can't change Zorvan's. Just because you've somehow heard of LoD, and trust them does not mean the rest of us have to. Also, you will NEVER make me listen to you by insulting everything I say and condescending to me in every stupid topic here...all that does is make me ignore your posts when I see your name.

He's actually not the leader but just a long time member.

Also, your so called credible sources that belong to media/gaming magazines/gaming tv/gaming sites are no more credible in my eyes.  Those services are run by money.  Money comes from advertisements and sponsors.  The people buying the advertisements are the companies that are making the games which the service reports on.  There is a direct conflict of interest here.  The gamespot incident shed some major light on this.  Also, how many of these gave Hellgate London favorable reviews when in reality that game was just plain horrible.  I'm sure the fact that the sites were plastered with advertisements of the game had nothing to do with it. 

 
HYPERI0N  4/12/08 8:52:34 PM

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Originally posted by krackajap

 

Originally posted by Burnthebed

 

Originally posted by

He's actually not the leader but just a long time member.

 

Also, your so called credible sources that belong to media/gaming magazines/gaming tv/gaming sites are no more credible in my eyes.  Those services are run by money.  Money comes from advertisements and sponsors.  The people buying the advertisements are the companies that are making the games which the service reports on.  There is a direct conflict of interest here.  The gamespot incident shed some major light on this.  Also, how many of these gave Hellgate London favorable reviews when in reality that game was just plain horrible.  I'm sure the fact that the sites were plastered with advertisements of the game had nothing to do with it. 

Also those people cant make barefaced lies as there are laws covering such conduct. Point is that Asp isant covered by those laws as he is [assuming he is real] not a real credible reporter.

"Conservatives are afraid of the media, that is why they believe it to be biased against them. Liberals embrace the media because they are not ignorant of true facts."

krackajap  4/12/08 9:22:04 PM

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Originally posted by HYPERI0N
Originally posted by krackajap

 

Originally posted by Burnthebed

 

Originally posted by

He's actually not the leader but just a long time member.

 

Also, your so called credible sources that belong to media/gaming magazines/gaming tv/gaming sites are no more credible in my eyes.  Those services are run by money.  Money comes from advertisements and sponsors.  The people buying the advertisements are the companies that are making the games which the service reports on.  There is a direct conflict of interest here.  The gamespot incident shed some major light on this.  Also, how many of these gave Hellgate London favorable reviews when in reality that game was just plain horrible.  I'm sure the fact that the sites were plastered with advertisements of the game had nothing to do with it. 

Also those people cant make barefaced lies as there are laws covering such conduct. Point is that Asp isant covered by those laws as he is [assuming he is real] not a real credible reporter.

Keep believing that if you want to.  If you don't believe that the companies that pay the bills for those sites and stuff don't have any influence on what is said about their games i don't know what to say.  I'm sure that Gamespot reviewer that got fired over the Kane and Lynch review would like that to be true also.

 
Gishgeron  4/12/08 9:32:32 PM

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Originally posted by krackajap
Originally posted by HYPERI0N
Originally posted by krackajap

 

Originally posted by Burnthebed

 

Originally posted by

He's actually not the leader but just a long time member.

 

Also, your so called credible sources that belong to media/gaming magazines/gaming tv/gaming sites are no more credible in my eyes.  Those services are run by money.  Money comes from advertisements and sponsors.  The people buying the advertisements are the companies that are making the games which the service reports on.  There is a direct conflict of interest here.  The gamespot incident shed some major light on this.  Also, how many of these gave Hellgate London favorable reviews when in reality that game was just plain horrible.  I'm sure the fact that the sites were plastered with advertisements of the game had nothing to do with it. 

Also those people cant make barefaced lies as there are laws covering such conduct. Point is that Asp isant covered by those laws as he is [assuming he is real] not a real credible reporter.

Keep believing that if you want to.  If you don't believe that the companies that pay the bills for those sites and stuff don't have any influence on what is said about their games i don't know what to say.  I'm sure that Gamespot reviewer that got fired over the Kane and Lynch review would like that to be true also.

 

  First, you discredit yourself by mentioning that someone got fired.  If everything is SOOO corrupt, and there are NO credible sources...then no one would have ever encountered this kind of backlash.  The fact is, some people ARE dirty...but the existence of dirty people does not somehow magically UNMAKE the existence of clean ones too.  Take off the tin foil hat.

  Second, credible media is not limited to reviewers and magazines.  As has been mentioned a THOUSAND freaking times now, there are a plethora of major accepted conventions that these guys go to for no other reason than to showcase things and stir up the media.  These conventions aren't paid for by advertisers trying to shop a positive vote.  In fact, the industry regards these conventions highly, and uses them as another way to research the market and analyze whats going on inside it.  Asp is NOT one of those industry leaders,.  Aventurine is about 3 years past time to drop a build of the game into a convention.

HYPERI0N  4/12/08 9:39:49 PM

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