General Discussion

CCP's foray into democracy in EVE Online has moved another step forward as the applicants for the Council of Stellar Management can now officially be called candidates.  Ineligible applicants have been removed from the running, and CCP has broken down the application statistics for us to consume.

These are interesting times we live in. Setting up a democratic structure in EVE has not been the easiest process we have undertaken, but we truly feel it is well worth the effort because of the interest you have shown in the project.

Now, this blog is to tell you a thing or two about the statistics of the applications received and the approved applicants, now lovingly referred to as candidates.*

But on to the statistics.

• We received 97 applications.
• We accepted 64.
• We rejected 33.

  Rejection reasons:

  • A scan of the passport was not supplied and either a personal photo was supplied instead, an expired passport or another type of identification that was not a passport.
  • EULA violation by the applicants.
  • Two applicants requested to be withdrawn and thus they count as being rejected.
  • Two applications were sent in by CCP for testing purposes when the service was reported as being down and they are included in these counts.
  • One applicant managed to apply twice due to some technical glitch we were unable to reproduce, one of those applications was rejected.

Read more here.

EULA violations.........................

This to me looks like an easy answer for them to keep out people they think will raise viable issues that the company has.  I see this whole thing as just a sham that CCP is pulling once again on its players.   I was there early on in testing and have played off and on over the period of the game and have seen issues come up that have finally pushed me away from this game forever.  CCP will continue to treat their customers with the tact of a stone and will show favoritism towards their Elite friends as they always have, even in beta.

whats with this thing of "scanning passports" would that be my real life passport? wtf does that hvae to do with me playing a game and applying to a in game democratic counsel? please someone explain this crazy crap to me.

Originally posted by nakuma

whats with this thing of "scanning passports" would that be my real life passport? wtf does that hvae to do with me playing a game and applying to a in game democratic counsel? please someone explain this crazy crap to me.

part of the role involves going to iceland to meet CCP for meetings. passports are needed for this. hence the requirement.

huh? i want to play the game, not travel half way around the world for a meeting. what purpose does that serve. so being part of the democratic counsel involves hauling my ass half way around the world from NYC to go to some meeting? an actual RL meeting lol. omg its a game for christ sake. im all for immersion, but this goes a step too far into  the realm of uncomfortable and inconvenient.  dont get me wrong i love th game but that is unearthly retarded makes no sense, irregardless if they are paying for the trip. just screams wierd and obtuse.

Originally posted by nakuma

huh? i want to play the game, not travel half way around the world for a meeting. what purpose does that serve. so being part of the democratic counsel involves hauling my ass half way around the world from NYC to go to some meeting? an actual RL meeting lol. omg its a game for christ sake. im all for immersion, but this goes a step too far into  the realm of uncomfortable and inconvenient.  dont get me wrong i love th game but that is unearthly retarded makes no sense, irregardless if they are paying for the trip. just screams wierd and obtuse.

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dont apply then?

Originally posted by rshandlon

EULA violations.........................

 

This to me looks like an easy answer for them to keep out people they think will raise viable issues that the company has.  I see this whole thing as just a sham that CCP is pulling once again on its players.   I was there early on in testing and have played off and on over the period of the game and have seen issues come up that have finally pushed me away from this game forever.  CCP will continue to treat their customers with the tact of a stone and will show favoritism towards their Elite friends as they always have, even in beta.

pretty much, considering their history so far.

Originally posted by nakuma

whats with this thing of "scanning passports" would that be my real life passport? wtf does that hvae to do with me playing a game and applying to a in game democratic counsel? please someone explain this crazy crap to me.

They want you to be able to travel to meetings, which will require a passport, and also to confirm that you are who you say you are.

It would impact very heavily on the integrity of this "democratic council" if they discovered that someone was not who they claimed to be.

Originally posted by nakuma

huh? i want to play the game, not travel half way around the world for a meeting. what purpose does that serve. so being part of the democratic counsel involves hauling my ass half way around the world from NYC to go to some meeting? an actual RL meeting lol. omg its a game for christ sake. im all for immersion, but this goes a step too far into  the realm of uncomfortable and inconvenient.  dont get me wrong i love th game but that is unearthly retarded makes no sense, irregardless if they are paying for the trip. just screams wierd and obtuse.

Well, obviously there are people who do not see it to be a waste of time and actually like the concept of helping out a game they clearly enjoy. You may not, I may not, but people clearly do.

Originally posted by rshandlon

EULA violations.........................

 

This to me looks like an easy answer for them to keep out people they think will raise viable issues that the company has.  I see this whole thing as just a sham that CCP is pulling once again on its players.   I was there early on in testing and have played off and on over the period of the game and have seen issues come up that have finally pushed me away from this game forever.  CCP will continue to treat their customers with the tact of a stone and will show favoritism towards their Elite friends as they always have, even in beta.

Tinfoil hat much? They obviously aren't going to accept someone if they have a history of RMT or exploiting.

Originally posted by rshandlon

EULA violations.........................

 

This to me looks like an easy answer for them to keep out people they think will raise viable issues that the company has.  I see this whole thing as just a sham that CCP is pulling once again on its players.   I was there early on in testing and have played off and on over the period of the game and have seen issues come up that have finally pushed me away from this game forever.  CCP will continue to treat their customers with the tact of a stone and will show favoritism towards their Elite friends as they always have, even in beta.

Agreed, it's just a soft vague "catch-all" category they can use as excuse to not have anyone that would ask probing questions or raise awkward issues.  Don't forget the whole reason they even had to go through this smokescreen is because the developers were caught red handed playing favorites, cheating, and then trying to lie and cover it up.  Most corrupt MMO company ever seen.

Incorrect, it was a systemic corruption within the company that first led to them trying to deny any cheating taking place while accusing the whistleblower, then after cover up became impossible to reveal they actually knew about the cheating all along.  That is not even counting the subsequent incident when the developers were caught rigging events.  I have seen the direct evidence, before it was revealed, and not CCP's subsequent lies and propaganda spin.  They were caught cheating again.  Their policy from the beginning has always been to lie, deny, and try to blame the whistleblower.