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Kcissem  4/29/08 4:54:15 PM

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Originally posted by VultureSkull

 

 

 

AOC has in my opinion pushed the limits of the MMO genre forward,

All games previous to this has may have a few extra bits and bobs but not none so far as i am aware has incorporated all that AOC has.

Some of the outstanding ones include, the new combat system, Mounted combat, Formations, Fatalities, Collision detection, spell weaving to mention but a few.

I think FUNCOM taking all they learnt in AO have/are producing an MMO that is more than the so called WoW clone(read as EQ1 clone)

And will truly be one of the first 2nd Gene MMO, unlike vanguard that simply added weakness's to the combat and thought they were making a 2nd gene MMO lol.

 

 

OK the game has not yet been released yet but by now i feel it is safe to know what is coming and even though some of the things that are featured may not work as intended on day one they will be fixed in due course.

As well as the required balancing of classes that come with PvE/PvP games.

Bugs can be fixed so long as the design of the game is solid.

Future games devs will now have to look at AOC and have to either match or better the feature set in AoC if they want to produce a ground breaking game.

Even if you don't beleive that AoC is a 2nd gen MMO at the very least it is a move in the right direction and finally the genre is moving away from the wow-clone stereotype.


second gen mmos are games like wow, eq2, eve online.  AOC is supposed to be the 3rd generation of MMOS like vanguard was supposed to be, and WAR claims to be.

 

 
Douhk  4/29/08 5:00:53 PM

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Well, it's really difficult to qualify something as "next-gen", as everyone has their different definitions of it... the game will be good, but nowhere near next-gen, at least according to my definition. When I think of next-gen I think of something so groundbreaking it literally skips a revolution, thus matching well with its name.

In fact, AoC is doing very little that hasn't been done, just improved and/or first introduced to MMORPGs (not the gaming genre in general, though). But the improvements are vast, which makes it pretty darn good. But in my definition of next-gen, it has to be a completely different game from every other that just blows people away. AoC is good, nowhere near that good though, sadly. One example I can use is a PC game coming out later this year... Spore. A lot of people are calling this game revolutionary and next-gen simply because of how ridiculously intricate it is / is going to be. I would think differently though, and thus adding to my point that a lot of people have different ideas of what is next-gen and what is not.

The way most things work is that everything just slowly improves over time to a point where we wouldn't notice "next-gen"... look at the GTA series. Vastly improved from the first game to now, but it didn't happen overnight. Happened slowly and almost seamlessly.

Being off topic, I'm surprisingly finding a lot of people consider WoW and EQ2 as next-gen... in my opinion I don't see much from either that was really so great that they could be considered next-gen, just the most popular of their times. Not that I dislike either, I actually really loved EQ while it lasted, and WoW was not too horrible, but in fact I can say AoC is doing more than either of these two... still not next-gen though lol... I have too high expectations I guess

 
LiquidWolf  4/29/08 5:13:01 PM

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Aye, from what I can tell based on generations, EQ2 and WoW were the Second generation, but I don't believe AoC can be considered Next Gen.

I'd refer to AoC and WAR as (possibly) the height of this generation. Still have to see if they live up to it.

Blizzard is working on their Next Gen MMO, and depending on what happens with Darkfall and the Warhammer 40K MMO, those will possibly fall into those categories.

Nothing out there is third generation yet.

But thank you for heralding the ending of an age. I do believe AoC and WAR can be the final dominators at the end of this age of MMO's. If these two succeed like everyone hopes, the players will look for the next age to usher in something new and amazing.

Kcissem  4/29/08 5:21:43 PM

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Originally posted by LiquidWolf

Aye, from what I can tell based on generations, EQ2 and WoW were the Second generation, but I don't believe AoC can be considered Next Gen.

I'd refer to AoC and WAR as (possibly) the height of this generation. Still have to see if they live up to it.

Blizzard is working on their Next Gen MMO, and depending on what happens with Darkfall and the Warhammer 40K MMO, those will possibly fall into those categories.

Nothing out there is third generation yet.

But thank you for heralding the ending of an age. I do believe AoC and WAR can be the final dominators at the end of this age of MMO's. If these two succeed like everyone hopes, the players will look for the next age to usher in something new and amazing.


hopefully blizz wont go with the name world of starcraft :P

 

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