Age of Conan

Originally posted by Oriphus

An interesting post.....with some drawbacks for me, what are you judging this against, what is it that you would quantify as a good all round MMo with at least a 9/10 grade. Are you comparing this against target renagade on specky 48k? are you just a fps junky with no real interest in mmo's...have you been involved with and played MMo' for to long and just an old craby git? I just can't really get this from your post, perhaps you could elaborate a little more on these issues so if i can see if i have a similar veiwpoint on games as yourself...otherwise i just get the feeling this post is worthless 'to me'.

My point being....how can i have any idea that i may love it even if you dislike it?

A good post and would like to see more like it..just think you could improve it using some of the observastions in this thread....then it could be a great post :)

 

Did you read what he said? He clearly stated he has a long history of MMOs he tested, stating no where he even plays FPS games. Next, why does he have to compare what a 9/10 game is? It has no bearing and if he had said something like "WoW" is a great 9/10 or something, then you'd just bash he's a fanboy of that and disregard everything. He obviously took a general and unbias opinion the best to his abilities.

Next, why do you need to understand someone's exact background to see exactly why someone has the opinion they do? Just take whatever you want from someone elses arguement and form your own opinions, its relatively simple I think. Specifically, no one has ever made a claim in this post that you should love or hate the game, its just a different viewpoint to help some people like myself.

I normally wouldn't defend someone else so extensively but I really enjoyed the post.

Originally posted by Cereo

 

Originally posted by Oriphus

An interesting post.....with some drawbacks for me, what are you judging this against, what is it that you would quantify as a good all round MMo with at least a 9/10 grade. Are you comparing this against target renagade on specky 48k? are you just a fps junky with no real interest in mmo's...have you been involved with and played MMo' for to long and just an old craby git? I just can't really get this from your post, perhaps you could elaborate a little more on these issues so if i can see if i have a similar veiwpoint on games as yourself...otherwise i just get the feeling this post is worthless 'to me'.

My point being....how can i have any idea that i may love it even if you dislike it?

A good post and would like to see more like it..just think you could improve it using some of the observastions in this thread....then it could be a great post :)

 

 

Did you read what he said? He clearly stated he has a long history of MMOs he tested, stating no where he even plays FPS games. Next, why does he have to compare what a 9/10 game is? It has no bearing and if he had said something like "WoW" is a great 9/10 or something, then you'd just bash he's a fanboy of that and disregard everything. He obviously took a general and unbias opinion the best to his abilities.

 

Next, why do you need to understand someone's exact background to see exactly why someone has the opinion they do? Just take whatever you want from someone elses arguement and form your own opinions, its relatively simple I think. Specifically, no one has ever made a claim in this post that you should love or hate the game, its just a different viewpoint to help some people like myself.

 

I normally wouldn't defend someone else so extensively but I really enjoyed the post.

 

Lol...wow..issues m8..

Did you read what i said?

At no point does he show any real love for playing MMo's or games in general....it seems to me its his job and is overly critical like an artist would be of their own work or other works...does not mean that general public wont love it. I could be wrong..but thats why i raised this issue.

If someone gave me a review of a cheesburger and only a month later i found out the guy had no tongue, didn't like cheese to begin with and has been working in McDonalds makin cheesburgers everyday for 25yrs and the sight of them makes him angry...but forgot to mention that in their review......get the point. Besides that..if you read my post...i gave the post a thumbs up..so go de stress in a corner plz and come back when you able to take in this concept.

Appologise to everyone else for having to try and make this overly simple for this guy to understand.

Originally posted by Oriphus

 

Originally posted by Cereo

 

Originally posted by Oriphus

An interesting post.....with some drawbacks for me, what are you judging this against, what is it that you would quantify as a good all round MMo with at least a 9/10 grade. Are you comparing this against target renagade on specky 48k? are you just a fps junky with no real interest in mmo's...have you been involved with and played MMo' for to long and just an old craby git? I just can't really get this from your post, perhaps you could elaborate a little more on these issues so if i can see if i have a similar veiwpoint on games as yourself...otherwise i just get the feeling this post is worthless 'to me'.

My point being....how can i have any idea that i may love it even if you dislike it?

A good post and would like to see more like it..just think you could improve it using some of the observastions in this thread....then it could be a great post :)

 

 

Did you read what he said? He clearly stated he has a long history of MMOs he tested, stating no where he even plays FPS games. Next, why does he have to compare what a 9/10 game is? It has no bearing and if he had said something like "WoW" is a great 9/10 or something, then you'd just bash he's a fanboy of that and disregard everything. He obviously took a general and unbias opinion the best to his abilities.

 

Next, why do you need to understand someone's exact background to see exactly why someone has the opinion they do? Just take whatever you want from someone elses arguement and form your own opinions, its relatively simple I think. Specifically, no one has ever made a claim in this post that you should love or hate the game, its just a different viewpoint to help some people like myself.

 

I normally wouldn't defend someone else so extensively but I really enjoyed the post.

 

Lol...wow..issues m8..

 

Did you read what i said?

At no point does he show any real love for playing MMo's or games in general....it seems to me its his job and is overly critical like an artist would be of their own work or other works...does not mean that general public wont love it. I could be wrong..but thats why i raised this issue.

If someone gave me a review of a cheesburger and only a month later i found out the guy had no tongue, didn't like cheese to begin with and has been working in McDonalds makin cheesburgers everyday for 25yrs and the sight of them makes him angry...but forgot to mention that in their review......get the point. Besides that..if you read my post...i gave the post a thumbs up..so go de stress in a corner plz and come back when you able to take in this concept.

 

Appologise to everyone else for having to try and make this overly simple for this guy to understand.

And your cheeseburger example makes no sence what so ever.  Weres the stand?  You make a completely ridiculous example of the person having no tounge wtf? (edit for spacing)

Originally posted by Shadus 5/02/08 9:56:08 AM

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This makes me see it through your point of view, I can live with that.

Very mature reply btw, unlike certain posters in here. Kudos buddy.

Originally posted by onlinenow225

 

 

Do you not realize to have a completely unbiased opinion you can NOT have any ANY ANY!! other past experiences interfere with what you think of said thing?  OPS claim of testing betas is the same as a doctor or a so called "expert" at a trial stating why they are considered a so called expert.  Proof that his opinion should show some validity.  No were in there does he state that the game is complete garbage, he says for the most part he liked everything but the combat, and even goes to say he would have liked it at an earlier time.  But everyone has their own opinion, thats his, his un-biast opinion of the game.

 

 

 

And your cheeseburger example makes no sence what so ever.  Weres the stand?  You make a completely ridiculous example of the person having no tounge wtf? (edit for spacing)

 

ffs..all i have asked for is for him to elaborate a little more on his opening paragraph so ppl can get a better feel for this guys likes/dislikes, its too short. I felt doing this would improve his post. It was never a flame, just a mere observation on how the original post could be improved on for passing readers. My first post made this clear enough, my second post was in responce to the unecessary flame in my direction that had no relevant points made to my post making me think a 12yr old had writen it...hence writing back so he may understand...

Now.....to state anything has a mark out of 10......needs to have a benchmark inorder to do so. This itself means that there is bias. It has to be COMPARED TO SOMETHING otherwise its meaningless. Now to elaborate in the first paragraph would give us the standard of where this bias is coming from and to what extent we can relate to it.

And why oh why....just proof to me that you did not read properly and care to understand my coments have the people who responded to me stated about him disliking the game..it being complete garbage or anything else to do with liking/dislikng the game. Infact i stated the complete oposite and only suggested that it was almost impossible to assertain wheather i would or would not like the game from his review.

Now stfu please and let me get back to designing stupid buildings for you to sit in and write this hate filled nonscence in.

Originally posted by Consequence

2 things you should know.

1)The devs have said mods, for the most part, will not be permitted in AoC. Quite frankly, I like this as the line between a mod and a cheat has certainly been tested in past games like WoW.

2) People were told ahead of time that this is a STRESS test, far moreso than an open beta. That said, its is done on older servers where they purposely stress the servers b4 1 player even logs in.  The lag is there for a purpose, and it will only help make the release smoother.  Its unfair to even comment on the "performance" of a stress test because it in fact, the opposite of the effect they are striving to achieve.

 

Im in the open beta too now. It launched at 10pm UK time so I had to wait untill I got out of the cinema from watching IRONMAN (awesome btw - stay after the credits roll fyi), in order to play it.

I had a few crashes - going from charater creation to the tutorial, and leaving the tutorial to go to the city.

I was rather dissapointed with the character creation to be honest. thought it would be allot more open than it is, but I suppose they have to avoid people creating pure freaks of nature - the way you can on the Wii creatuing your 'Me'.
That said, i was still able to create a toon that I was happy with and jump in.

I think the gameplay will benefit allot from both my becoming more familair with it and with it getting tweaked after player feedback. managing attacks and defences on the fly will be challenging... but then this is a competitive game.

The game looked great on medium settings for me and I have a decent enough system.
2 gb ram, dual core processor, vista, GeForce 8800 GTS, 500gb HD.

The game is being stress tested though so i fully expect lag and the odd crash.
reporting this stuff is what this fileplanet limited beta is for btw.

For me AoC is too realistic, embeded in real world. I prefer games with fantasy like Evequest , Lineage II, with differents races ( orcs, elfs, dark elfs, etc.. ) maybe graphics in this game is better but most important in MMORPG's is gameplay no matter how game look like

Originally posted by Battlekruse

For me AoC is too realistic, embeded in real world. I prefer games with fantasy like Evequest , Lineage II, with differents races ( orcs, elfs, dark elfs, etc.. ) maybe graphics in this game is better but most important in MMORPG's is gameplay no matter how game look like

Howard's Hyboria is a low fantasy world. This is actually one of the main points why I like it because of too much of high fantasy is in the market and nothing else really.

Originally posted by Oriphus

 

Originally posted by onlinenow225

 

 

Do you not realize to have a completely unbiased opinion you can NOT have any ANY ANY!! other past experiences interfere with what you think of said thing?  OPS claim of testing betas is the same as a doctor or a so called "expert" at a trial stating why they are considered a so called expert.  Proof that his opinion should show some validity.  No were in there does he state that the game is complete garbage, he says for the most part he liked everything but the combat, and even goes to say he would have liked it at an earlier time.  But everyone has their own opinion, thats his, his un-biast opinion of the game.

 

 

 

And your cheeseburger example makes no sence what so ever.  W