Age of Conan

Originally posted by Alan0n

Open and close beta testers are playing exactly the same version atm.  There is no other client anywhere around.  The same bull was told to Closed beta testers (while playing lvl 1-13) and when they implemented the "latest" patch the game even got worse.  

So no - there is no miracle patch.  This is it.

That's bullcrap and has been proven wrong on the official forums by many closed beta testers on several occasions. http://community.ageofconan.com if you dont believe me.

Originally posted by JaeSwift

Originally posted by Alan0n

Open and close beta testers are playing exactly the same version atm.  There is no other client anywhere around.  The same bull was told to Closed beta testers (while playing lvl 1-13) and when they implemented the "latest" patch the game even got worse.  

So no - there is no miracle patch.  This is it.

That's bullcrap and has been proven wrong on the official forums by many closed beta testers on several occasions. http://community.ageofconan.com if you dont believe me.

i can't find whatever post you're talking about...maybe its being bumped several pages back by all the negative threads.

Originally posted by URMAKER

Originally posted by JaeSwift

Originally posted by Alan0n

Open and close beta testers are playing exactly the same version atm.  There is no other client anywhere around.  The same bull was told to Closed beta testers (while playing lvl 1-13) and when they implemented the "latest" patch the game even got worse.  

So no - there is no miracle patch.  This is it.

That's bullcrap and has been proven wrong on the official forums by many closed beta testers on several occasions. http://community.ageofconan.com if you dont believe me.

i can't find whatever post you're talking about...maybe its being bumped several pages back by all the negative threads.

There is no post about this.  Im playing open beta - my m8 is playing closed beta.  Not the same servers but that is the only diffrence.  Thats all the diffrence.

Originally posted by Alan0n

Originally posted by URMAKER

Originally posted by JaeSwift

Originally posted by Alan0n

Open and close beta testers are playing exactly the same version atm.  There is no other client anywhere around.  The same bull was told to Closed beta testers (while playing lvl 1-13) and when they implemented the "latest" patch the game even got worse.  

So no - there is no miracle patch.  This is it.

That's bullcrap and has been proven wrong on the official forums by many closed beta testers on several occasions. http://community.ageofconan.com if you dont believe me.

i can't find whatever post you're talking about...maybe its being bumped several pages back by all the negative threads.

There is no post about this.  Im playing open beta - my m8 is playing closed beta.  Not the same servers but that is the only diffrence.  Thats all the diffrence.

yea i figured as much. i've been reading  the issues most people are having and sounds like the same stuff thats going on in cb right now.

The whole way they have handled all of this seems very suspicous if you ask me. People are very innocent and take the words of big companies because they are big companies but you have to remember that the important decisions of the company i.e. releasing the game are made by accountants.

A lot of the things they have said are quite clearly lies. You DO NOT release an old version of the client to 50,000 potential customers, certainly not a client that clearly has as many problems as the one they have released does, unless that is all you have.

The NDA post level 13 will be in effect until the day of release. If they were genuinely confident the game is in a good state this would NOT happen. Why would you forbid testers from talking about the game raising anticipation, unless you know they would not have anything positive to say.

The game we are told does not really 'get going' until level 20. Then why limit potential customers to the first 13 levels, surely the obvious point would be 21 i.e. just as it starts to get interesting.

The following things are not supported in the open beta client:
DirectX 10
Multi-threading
Spellweaving

All of these are the kind of things that, going on the games current state, will simply not function come release.

In fact not only does the game not function for many, many people but for a significant number, including my brother, it completely breaks their gfx driver install.

The first thing you are told in sofware engineering 101 is: One tenth of all software engineering projects fail. The British NHS database system is a classic example, a ridiculous amount of money spent on something that simply does not function.

In my opinion they have reviewed AoC and seen that after 5 years and multiple delays it is never going to be in the state they want. The solution?
Try and keep people quiet about the state and release the most functional parts to encourage people to buy the game. Let fileplanet pay you for the right to host the paid beta and try to recuperate as much money as possible in preorders and 1st month subscriptions, basically damage limitation.

The game has potential, the first 5 levels whilst not ground breaking are fun enough that if the entire game ran like that I might want to play it for a couple of months. The game however will fail. It will go one of two ways, they will continue the investment and try to fix the bugs a la vanguard or they will simply let the game die a la Potbs. This is a shame as it really only needed to be playable for me to continue it, but it simply isnt. It is a buggy, poorly designed, broken piece of software.

So we have established a few things here as to what people THINK, is anyone following topics on official forums or Euro forums? Are they also sitting around bashing the game on un official forums?

About time a thread like this came up, and it is nice to see most people have a clear head about it.  But of course there will always be die hard fans to defend it. 

"OMG you moron, it is just beta, you obviously know nothing.  Release contains magic and kitten kisses that fixes all these problem obviously...."   This line will of course not be valid in about 3 weeks when it releases.

I am hoping they can patch things quickly and have a good launch, because this genre needs a decent game.  AoC's concepts are not new enough to withstand a bad launch, so they really need to come through big time.  I swear if i hear one more person rant and rave about the combat system being so new and interesting...

Ive been a caster in past fantasy MMOs so i was very interested in spellweaving and read the summary of it that was posted here a little while ago, but was pretty disapointed.  It is a step in the right direction though of stepping outside the box, but AoC didnt really come up with anything too amazing with it.

Gl AoC and to those who are hardcore fans.  Nothing is better than really enjoying a game and seeing it do well, so i cant fault people who seem to like it, but for me and many others, it is just meh...and hopefully it wont be a meh game with a meh launch.

Originally posted by say10

The whole way they have handled all of this seems very suspicous if you ask me. People are very innocent and take the words of big companies because they are big companies but you have to remember that the important decisions of the company i.e. releasing the game are made by accountants.

A lot of the things they have said are quite clearly lies. You DO NOT release an old version of the client to 50,000 potential customers, certainly not a client that clearly has as many problems as the one they have released does, unless that is all you have.

The NDA post level 13 will be in effect until the day of release. If they were genuinely confident the game is in a good state this would NOT happen. Why would you forbid testers from talking about the game raising anticipation, unless you know they would not have anything positive to say.

The game we are told does not really 'get going' until level 20. Then why limit potential customers to the first 13 levels, surely the obvious point would be 21 i.e. just as it starts to get interesting.

The following things are not supported in the open beta client:
DirectX 10
Multi-threading
Spellweaving

All of these are the kind of things that, going on the games current state, will simply not function come release.

In fact not only does the game not function for many, many people but for a significant number, including my brother, it completely breaks their gfx driver install.

The first thing you are told in sofware engineering 101 is: One tenth of all software engineering projects fail. The British NHS database system is a classic example, a ridiculous amount of money spent on something that simply does not function.

In my opinion they have reviewed AoC and seen that after 5 years and multiple delays it is never going to be in the state they want. The solution?
Try and keep people quiet about the state and release the most functional parts to encourage people to buy the game. Let fileplanet pay you for the right to host the paid beta and try to recuperate as much money as possible in preorders and 1st month subscriptions, basically damage limitation.

The game has potential, the first 5 levels whilst not ground breaking are fun enough that if the entire game ran like that I might want to play it for a couple of months. The game however will fail. It will go one of two ways, they will continue the investment and try to fix the bugs a la vanguard or they will simply let the game die a la Potbs. This is a shame as it really only needed to be playable for me to continue it, but it simply isnt. It is a buggy, poorly designed, broken piece of software.

This has all happened before... Remember AO?  They did the exact same thing then too..