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Nierro  5/31/08 3:05:59 PM

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Okay, so my parents finally agreed to buy me a new computer in order to upgrade my 5 year old one, they're giving me $700 or so bucks for it.

I have basically no idea how to assemble/upgrade/put together PC's; my knowledge of PC-building is limited to putting memory in.

I went to this site, "cyberpower.com" (and their what I'm assuming is sister site ibuypower.com") and configured a pretty good computer (according to a few tech-savvy friends and people on this website)..but after reading some horror stories of people who had bought computers from these guys before I became a little hesitant.

I've been looking for an alternative to ibuypower or cyberpower without paying 400 dollars extra, but have been totally unsuccessful.

This is the computer I made, and the price I got for it.

$675.00
(before all applicable rebates)
 
 
CASE: ($10 off Mail-in Rebate) Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case
CPU: AMD Athlon™ X2 5000+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: Asus M2N SLI NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI MCP Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN, IEEE1394, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

 

 

Are there any alternatives to these two websites, or am I just going to have to hope for the best?

 

 

bluberryhaze  5/31/08 3:24:00 PM

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CASE: ($10 off Mail-in Rebate) Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W Case

is a 400Watt case going to work ok? i was under the impression you would need more power for a video card. not sure though.

 

 

 

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CleffyII  5/31/08 5:48:23 PM

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The minimum needed for a card in that power range is 450watt.  But then again it really depends on the rest of your system.  Considering how few peripherals are attached, he might be able to get away with a 400watt supply.

No there aren't any PC builders that are as cheap as Cyberpower / IBuypower / or thier cheap brand.  Tigersdirect used to offer PC Building if you assemble the parts.  Not sure if they do anymore, but that would be cheaper.  Unfortunetly at the price point you can gamble with CyberPower, or pay twice as much to get a proprietary unmodifiable computer from the likes of Dell.  Chances are a screw up from CyberPower won't cost that much to repair.

Draenor  5/31/08 6:53:30 PM

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Remember that you're going to need an operating system...I'm guessing by your cost and components that you didn't account for that, or that you already have an operating system on disc, because to add one on the builder generally costs around an extra 100 dollars or so.

There's something kinda sad about the way that things have come to be, desensitized to everything, what became of subtlety?

Nierro  5/31/08 7:37:47 PM

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Originally posted by Draenor

Remember that you're going to need an operating system...I'm guessing by your cost and components that you didn't account for that, or that you already have an operating system on disc, because to add one on the builder generally costs around an extra 100 dollars or so.

Nope, that's including the OS.

Nierro  5/31/08 7:44:07 PM

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Originally posted by CleffyII

The minimum needed for a card in that power range is 450watt.  But then again it really depends on the rest of your system.  Considering how few peripherals are attached, he might be able to get away with a 400watt supply.

No there aren't any PC builders that are as cheap as Cyberpower / IBuypower / or thier cheap brand.  Tigersdirect used to offer PC Building if you assemble the parts.  Not sure if they do anymore, but that would be cheaper.  Unfortunetly at the price point you can gamble with CyberPower, or pay twice as much to get a proprietary unmodifiable computer from the likes of Dell.  Chances are a screw up from CyberPower won't cost that much to repair.

I'm assuming that 420W is enough, because they don't even offer a 450watt case.

Muirin  5/31/08 9:00:32 PM

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I would suggest you stay away from Cyberpower systems, i've had nothing but problems with the PC i bought from them.  I bought it 5 years ago and since then i've upgraded all the hardware.

When i first got my PC it worked great for about 10 months, then my video card dies.  I sent it back to them to fix the video card.  Get it back and the video card is DOA, also the LED light on the front door is dead since something cut the wire.  I send it back again and the video card is still DOA.  My HDD was also jammed into the HDD bay sidewars and the brakets were broken.  Finally they just mailed me a new video card and it worked fine after i installed it myself.  They also installed a beeber that was ment to beep if i had a hardware crash and when i turn my PC on and off, never heard the thing beeb once. 

They may of improved since then, but i dought it.

 

Unless your planing on useing 2 video cards dont need a nForce motherboard, they are for SLI.  Its cheaper to just get a motherboard with a AMD northbridge chip.  2GB of ram is weak, can easily get 4GB of DD2 for less then $100.  But unless your running a 64Bit OS dont need more then 3GB of ram.

 

Use this to caculate how many Watts you will need

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

I came up with only 334 watts, but i might of missed some stuff i dont know about.

 

PC would only cost you around $575 if you made it yourself.

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Isolation  5/31/08 10:59:03 PM

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I myself have a PC from Cyberpower. It's pretty decent for the most part, but my video card died in less than 2 months, though they replaced it pretty quickly. I personally recommend building it yourself. It's really not very difficult at all, and you would probably be able to build it for about at least $80 cheaper than you're looking at right now (though their price is still good).

Just look online for a guide or something if you have to. It can be a pain in the ass if you run into problems, but you feel great when it's over with.

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Nierro  5/31/08 11:06:10 PM

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Hmm, I don't think I know what goes with what and what goes where, ect.. 

I do have two questions though..

What do medium settings look like in AoC? (I wouldn't get anyone to answer this anyways, too much flaming and trolling in those forums)

Also, how would the game run with this setup;

 

AMD Athlon 64 X2 AM2 4400+ processor at 2.4 GHz,  2000MHz FSB, 512KB x 2 cache

Triple 120MM case fan and cooling sys