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mf_raven  8/12/08 6:51:52 AM

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past is the best teacher as long as one is willing to learn... but some will never learn

After three+ year shizzard still have no intention of adding anything new, since puppetts like Tom Chilton dont see any need for anything more because "...WOW is perfectly balanced pvp/pve game", according to the same {mod edit} Im curious is this true, are all players that enjoy a bit of pvp, satisfied with over 3 year ald AV, with nothing new, no new bg, same shitty av.

Im not talking about tower capturing etc... im talking about new BG, three+ year is 'nuf time even for retard to get some idea what and how to do it.

 
jessian  8/12/08 7:02:15 AM

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Battlegrounds in WoW now run like this...

 

AV

All players rush north / south and try kill boss as fast as possible. Any players asking for pvp inbetween usually gets dogs abuse and threats in RL. One reason why i have now cancelled this game for good.

warsong

To win, either Pally bubbles or resto druid that 6 players cant make a dent in its health stands and has flag until pally bubbles kill all attacking flag carrier

EOTS

Huh? does this actually exsist ?

Arathi basin

This is probably the most pathetic BG out, capture flags, hold them long enough then move on.

i usually cry playing this map.

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Arenas is where to pvp people, here you will see very talented players knocking the shit outta each other, but wow isnt balanced. So if you go in as Rogue warrior, prepare to lose a lot

 

 
fuzzylojik  8/12/08 7:29:54 AM

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WoW has bad PvP content, it was never a pvp game.  Lack of world PvP and only 4 instanced BGs and arena as endgame PvP after 4 years is really sad.  Even FPS game have more maps than that lol.  They have neglected PvP and people only put up with it because of lack of options.  Only reason WoW is adding new PvP zone in WOTLK is to compete with WAR.

 
Tungkan  8/12/08 7:34:25 AM

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Well , they added Arenas , 3 small maps :P
But it seems that is not enough

 
hebeventijd  8/12/08 8:22:58 AM

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Originally posted by fuzzylojik

WoW has bad PvP content, it was never a pvp game.  Lack of world PvP and only 4 instanced BGs and arena as endgame PvP after 4 years is really sad.  Even FPS game have more maps than that lol.  They have neglected PvP and people only put up with it because of lack of options.  Only reason WoW is adding new PvP zone in WOTLK is to compete with WAR.


 

Well why aren't they playing the beautiful PvP in Conan than with its innovative combat system?

And why did they leave DAoC( like me) to play PvP in Wow 4 years ago?

:)

And I am not so convinced yet about WAR either...it could be good, it could be bad.

We'll see if WAR will walk like Paul M. talks.

But Wow people know what they already had and that was rather good in view of the recently published competition (to take your own words).

 

 
Azrile  8/12/08 9:14:41 AM

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Originally posted by jessian

Battlegrounds in WoW now run like this...

 

AV

All players rush north / south and try kill boss as fast as possible. Any players asking for pvp inbetween usually gets dogs abuse and threats in RL. One reason why i have now cancelled this game for good.

warsong

To win, either Pally bubbles or resto druid that 6 players cant make a dent in its health stands and has flag until pally bubbles kill all attacking flag carrier

EOTS

Huh? does this actually exsist ?

Arathi basin

This is probably the most pathetic BG out, capture flags, hold them long enough then move on.

i usually cry playing this map.

=====

Arenas is where to pvp people, here you will see very talented players knocking the shit outta each other, but wow isnt balanced. So if you go in as Rogue warrior, prepare to lose a lot

 


 

This is quite the exaggeration.

AV -  Does anyone kill the boss anymore?   As a horde player, we usually get SH Bunker, then IB bunker.. then there is a huge pvp battle at the bridge until we run them out of reinforcements.   Occassionally we break past the bridge and get the N and S bunkers...  but only very rarely do we get to kill Van.  For a normal 40v40 fight, I usually rack up 250HK's.   I dunno, somebody must be pvping and fighting, right?   Yeah, anyone who fights mid-field is pretty much stupid and I'd tell them that.   If you want to 'stay back' and pvp, then plop yourself in and guard  Balinda/Galv.   You either play offense, or defense... floating around the middle of the map is just useless, which is probably what you try to do.

WSG -   Yeah, Restro druids are pretty effective, but only til you hit lvl 30 and get a mount.    Paladins and Druids have no real advantage at 70 in battlegrounds.   Rogues have sprint,  Warlocks have Howl, mages have blink, warriors have intimidating shout..... everyone has their little 'gimmick' that gives them a short term advantage while carrying a flag.

AB -  um.. so you cap a resource and leave?   Have you ever noticed how the opposing team can um.. recapture what you just took?  The whole point to AB is to capture AND HOLD  3 of the 5 resources.  If all you are doing is capping something and then running away from it, you are doing nothing to help you team win.

I'm guessing since you've never done EotS that you don't even have the expansion or have a lvl 70 character.  How can you comment on anything if you aren't playing with 95% of other players.

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shae  8/12/08 9:39:29 AM

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Your flame bait post asside, there is absolutely no truth in anything you've written.

Fact is that Battle Grounds in WoW have constantly been approving over time. Does that mean they are perfect? Nope. Does that mean that everyone enjoys them all the time? Nope, not at all. Personally, I'm not a fan of the BG's myself.

But the fact is that many people play them and have a great time. They can be a great way to gain neat PVP gear, great for guild events (huge premades are done guild wide over weekends to have fun in them) and are accessible to everyone and a good way to train up those pvp skills.

Eye of the Storm was added to the mix with BC and even I, again not a big BG girl, think it can be quite fun. In the upcoming Wrath of the Lich King expansion we're going to see some new BG, PVP ideas come with Dragon Blight which has an Incredible amount of potential and shows that Blizzard continues to learn from what works and what doesn't.

Add Arena's into all this, tons of PVE content and you can clearly see that Blizzard has always tried to find a balance between those who want a healthy dose of PVP and PVE. You certainly cannot please everyone but I think Blizz gives it a decent shot.

Pappy13  8/12/08 11:23:17 AM

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Originally posted by mf_raven

After three+ year shizzard still have no intention of adding anything new, since puppetts like Tom Chilton dont see any need for anything more because "...WOW is perfectly balanced pvp/pve game", according to the same fagot, Im curious is this true, are all players that enjoy a bit of pvp, satisfied with over 3 year ald AV, with nothing new, no new bg, same shitty av.

Im not talking about tower capturing etc... im talking about new BG, three+ year is 'nuf time even for retard to get some idea what and how to do it.

For your information, since you seem to be lacking any actual facts in your post, ALL of the current PvP content has been added in the last 3+ years because the game is only 3+ years old and none of it was in the game at release.  That's right, everything.  Here's a quick run down of what has been added in the last 3+ years for PvP in WoW.

4 Battlegrounds

6 Arena's (2v2, 3v3, 5v5) both competitive and non competitive.

A full blown PvP tourney server.

Many world PvP quests and zones with world PvP objectives.

A full PvP honor system and a revamp of that honor system.

Tons of PvP gear and various PvP sets per class.

Battlemasters.

And that doesn't even include all the things that will be added in the next expansion this fall.

Yeah, Blizzard has REALLY been lax about adding PvP content in the last 3+ years.  This post is a joke. 

Kilmar  8/12/08 11:27:07 AM

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Originally posted by Pappy13
Originally posted by mf_raven

After three+ year shizzard still have no intention of adding anything new, since puppetts like Tom Chilton dont see any need for anything more because "...WOW is perfectly balanced pvp/pve game", according to the same fagot, Im curious is this true, are all players that enjoy a bit of pvp, satisfied with over 3 year ald AV, with nothing new, no new bg, same shitty av.

Im not talking about tower capturing etc... im talking about new BG, three+ year is 'nuf time even for retard to get some idea what and how to do it.

For your information, since you seem to be lacking any actual facts in your post, ALL of the current PvP content has been added in the last 3+ years because the game is only 3+ years old and none of it was in the game at release.  That's right, everything.  Here's a quick run down