All Posts by anubisss

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by anubisss

 

 

G&H is a mmorpg PVE with minions and awesome graphics.You have the whole world to explore and anough lore to put any other game lore to shame even Warhammers 25 yesrs dont compare to 1000s of years of history.

Just look at this vid on the main site lol..vanguard has no chance agaist this as a matter of fact i would seriously put this up there with WAR-AOC.Dont mistake this as a Guild Wars type mmorpg because its like eq-wow-vanguard free roaming mmorpg.

You lost me when you said... PVE.... won't play anymore games focused on PVE endgames.... we've had enough EQ-WOW-VG's for now....  

 

As to lore comparisons.... history is boring... WAR lore is fun.... 

Dont get me wrong i will play WAR and have been TT for years.I am a PVP to the core and played DAOC for 3 years.When i mentioned PVE it was to put it across that its just like Vanguard as in a PVE game which might have 1-2 PVP but it is a PVE game.

Anyone who thinks this game wont get some of vanguards subs is wrong lol.What happens when this joins SOE game list and its spread all over there site and is part of the Gasmecard option lol people from soe station will be all over this game like a rash.

I am not saying that Vanguard will burn and die.I am just saying its going to take a hell of a long time to turn this around,there is just to much coming out later this year.Have they missed there chance?i dont no but if  these server merges dont work its all downhill from there.

This would be a shame because it is a beautiful world but they have left out the one thing that helps these game succeed...FUN.....

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by anubisss

 

 

G&H is a mmorpg PVE with minions and awesome graphics.You have the whole world to explore and anough lore to put any other game lore to shame even Warhammers 25 yesrs dont compare to 1000s of years of history.

Just look at this vid on the main site lol..vanguard has no chance agaist this as a matter of fact i would seriously put this up there with WAR-AOC.Dont mistake this as a Guild Wars type mmorpg because its like eq-wow-vanguard free roaming mmorpg.

You lost me when you said... PVE.... won't play anymore games focused on PVE endgames.... we've had enough EQ-WOW-VG's for now....  

 

As to lore comparisons.... history is boring... WAR lore is fun.... 

Its PVE at the start but they have already said it will turn RVR-PVP when they introduce a new nation..ie like Carthage or Goul.

Originally posted by Xris375

 

Originally posted by anubisss

 

You are right and it make me laugh how people forget that SOE have another game just around the corner called Gods&Heroes.Do people really think that SOE are going to put all there time into a game that is broken and can wait while they get G&H up and running.

 

G&H is a mmorpg PVE with minions and awesome graphics.You have the whole world to explore and anough lore to put any other game lore to shame even Warhammers 25 yesrs dont compare to 1000s of years of history.

Just look at this vid on the main site lol..vanguard has no chance agaist this as a matter of fact i would seriously put this up there with WAR-AOC.Dont mistake this as a Guild Wars type mmorpg because its like eq-wow-vanguard free roaming mmorpg.

www.godsandheroes.com/

I wonder if PE (the developers of G&H) agrres with you that G&H is a SoE game  

 

Anyhow, G&H is not even a semi sandbox game, so I don't think G&H will steal any customers from the Vanguard crowd

LOL is that the best you can come with.You know what i mean by SOE and G&H and all i am saying is G&H could take some of Vanguards player base no matter how sandbox you think it is.I can tell you now that its not as sandbox as you would have people believe.

Lets face it Vanguard is broken and i say that from having a lvl 50 bard and lvl 22 psionist.I was doing Crypt/RI/(1st person to get Drum Of Separation on my server lol.I have not played for 4 weeks either.

I know all about vanguard and you talk sandbox but if you look at the server population and the difficulty in getting groups you might as well be box off.A vast World dont mean shit if there is fuck all to do in it.

Originally posted by TheChronic

its funny how the devs of this game once said, "SOE can't touch this game, they are only responsible for the marketing and sales stuff"

now look at vanguard again, it became a great failure and runs under SOE now...

they say it needs time to get fixed, but what kind of time are they talking about ? this game is running out of time, since future mmorpgs are on the road and what kind of chance will it have when funcoms "age of conan" or "warhammer online" gets released ?

do you guys think that SOE will give a damn about this game, when in the same time they have to take care about their upcomming "the agency", the broken star wars galaxies or everquest 2 ?

do you really think that SOE will spent any serious ressources or money into this game ? vanguard is done and it's over and the only marketing strategy for SOE is to avoid further investments into this game since it was a flop, thats a marketing fact and they will stick with this.

I feel sorry for the vanguard fans, but keep your head up, better games are on the way, so dont worry...

G&H is a mmorpg PVE with minions and awesome graphics.You have the whole world to explore and anough lore to put any other game lore to shame even Warhammers 25 yesrs dont compare to 1000s of years of history.

Just look at this vid on the main site lol..vanguard has no chance agaist this as a matter of fact i would seriously put this up there with WAR-AOC.Dont mistake this as a Guild Wars type mmorpg because its like eq-wow-vanguard free roaming mmorpg.

www.godsandheroes.com/

Originally posted by SWGLover

 

Originally posted by anubisss

WAR is a RVR-PVP-PVE game in that order and no amount of moaning and bitching about why you cant grind the fuck out of an instance time and time again is going to change that..PVE is part of the RVR experience and EVERY quests you do has something to do with the war effort.Even 2 of the Raid instances are RVR just like DARKNESS FALLS in DAOC.So

even while you are trying to take out that top boss me and my boyz can come and take him off ya lol.The best items will come from RVR capitol city raids so fucking live with it or participate.

Paul Barnett has already stated that MYHIC DONT HAVE TO PLZ EVERYONE and WAR is about WAR-RVR plain and simple.When your toon is born into the WARHAMMER world you are born in the middle of a never ending WAR.There will be no opening new instance with the enemy or gathering fuck up resources to help the other-sides WAR effort lol.

 

A Quote from Paul should remind you moaning PVEs that Mythic can do what they want and still have potentially the best game out there catering to people who like a real challenge instead of some fuck up NPC incounter.

Quote="One of the things we had to decide early on is..." Paul muses, "well, our game is Warhammer. It's not farm-hammer. It's not making-T-shirts-hammer. It's not dancing-hammer. It's Warhammer. Therefore, though there are these elements in other games, it's not of much interest to us. And that's difficult, because we have this obsession with 'Don't you have to appeal to all these different game styles?' And in short, no, you don't. Pick a great idea - War - and then realise that idea in the most wondrous way you can.

 WAR IS COMING

 Ghost Squad

 

 

Boy, Mythic will be proud to draw customers like this! 

 

And by the way, a pure pvp game by history doesn't tend to have a large player base .

Those pve players that ya'll insult might have been the difference between success and failure in a thinly populated game. Mythic does want to make money, after all, and when the game population settles out to 30k players ya'll won't be seeing things like upgrades since the money won't be there for stuff like that.

 

So keep trying to drive the pve players away, it's a great business tactic.......   

 

 

 

Why would Mythic mind me telling people what they have already said themselves.Again did you even read the post?where did i state that WAR is a PURE PVE mmorpg?

Thinly populated game lol you do know Mythic have there own fan base through DAOC RVR system right? 200.000 people sign up for beta and you are talking about 30k subs.Then you have TT  Warhammer fans as well.

Look i will say it again so you can understand what i am saying.WAR is a RVR centric game, included in that system is PVP-PVE all leading back to the war effort.No one has said that WAR is a PURE PVP mmorpg.

Public Quests are PVE-PVP and consists of quests designed to help the WAR effort.You can go through to the top tier just by doing Public quests.6 Raid Dungeons of  which two will be like Darkness Falls in DAOC meaning you can  PVP in them.

See the Popcast and look at the Quotes from the dev,war is everywhere and your toon is born into that  war.20%-80% PVE-80%-20%RVR=endgame.

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

Originally posted by truenorthbg

Looks very cool.

Yeah i cant wait till the 10/8/2007 when this is released in us/uk.Its already out in Europe meaning mainland.Th is game is unlike any other RPG to date as in what you can do and how you influence the world.

Well you can multiplay up to 8 in group but a mmorpg would be great.This game could be the oblivion beta and at first glance you would be thinking its a mmorpg.Until WAR come out i will lose myself in some 8 man RPG fun.

Check it out..

2-worlds.com/

Originally posted by defenestrate

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by jor8888

 

Originally posted by Elgareth

You won't be able to gank in WAR. Period.

Mythics applies various anti-gank, anti-grief features to their game because they know the risk.

Are u saying if there is 1vs1 or  6 vs 6 no one else can butt in the fight?

 

Well sure, if you are in one of instanced combat areas you will be limited to the number of participants, but in the open world PVP, no, people can come along and spoil your fun.

 

What they have stated they will do is de-buff higher level players who venture into lowbie PVP areas with the purpose off ganking, so much so that they will probably be slaughtered.  I also suspect they'll employ a mechanic that DAOC currently has, where if you attack a player who is currently engaged fighting a PVE mob you will receive no skill points (or whatever they are called in WAR) for the kill.  I'm also sure they will not reward you for killing players significantly lower than yourself.

Also, there is the chaos chicken for all the tough guys who go down to the lower tiers to fuck with the lower tier guys. So sorry Anubisss you and your elite ghost squad wont be able to repeatedly "gank" lower level people. I hear Lineage 2 is still going strong though.

  Who said anything about ganking?you have not read the whole thread because you would see i did`nt mention ganking.Ganking was bought into the debate when .....took a description of an RVR raid dungeon as ganking.We dont want a rep as a ganker squad?We would like to be known as a team people can rely on in the heat of battle.We are there for the whole realm not for our own personal glory.

I dont gank people as you put it lol whats the damn point of ganking someone(you are talking from a WOW point of view?)all it  gets you  is a bad rep.

Before you make assumption read the whole thread.Me and my Ghost Squad as you put it will be killing the enemy and giving no quarter for the realm.WAR =the whole realm getting behind each other not me going agaist my own faction  or being a bully squad.

Teamwork is a must and belieave me when i say i wont be spoiling anyone day unless i have to.

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

 

Originally posted by sitheus

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

 

Nice, maybe all the gankers can go to WAR and stay out of other games not meant for them.

 

I'm glad the PvP fans finally get a game geared toward them. But the OP's post reminds me of the early community of Vanguard: elitist and hostile

. Whether you realize it or not, WAR will be a niche game if it caters solely to the PvP crowd. Which is fine, nothing wrong with niche games.  But a game filled with people exhibiting the same attitude the OP is here, will more likely run more people off than it brings in.

Just my $.02. Enjoy your game.

Because a PvPer is excited about a PvP game, he should be labeled a ganker?   I'm a PvPer looking forward to WAR and I am not a ganker. In fact I find it boring and useless. I'm looking forward to WAR because of the over 130 different PvP areas so far at release that will be available and it will have PvP obectives. Whether it be skirmishes or large scale combat from open fields to cities, I am looking forrward to it. And you may be surprised how many people are going to enjoy this game because they are looking forward to the meaningful, intense, and exciting PvP with logical objectives and not ganking!!  Remember this is not going to be WoW PvP--useless honor grinding for better gear and useless world pvp to cap a tower  to get a retarted buff and ganking--this is going to be PvP WAR style which is completely different than WoWs severely fouled up PvP. 

PvP'ers are not all gankers, I agree. But by reading the OP's post, he pretty much gave the impression of being one.

 

The point I tried to make is that the type of attitude displayed by the OP is the same that was exhibited by the communtiy of the Vanguard forums in the beginning, which did in fact discourage alot of people from even caring to learn about the game itself.

Explaining the way PvE is handled in the game to help others understand it is one thing. Telling people to "fucking live with it", when the game is nowhere near being set in stone and can be changed at any time before release, is another.

Anyway, I'll take my leave of this section of the forums. Perhaps I'll look at WAR later in the future, after a good representation of it's community can be observed. Because if the OP is representative of the majority of WAR's community, no amount of gameplay will make up for it.

Peace. 

My thread was in answer to the endless crap i hear relating to WAR and how they need more PVE.Seems to me that now we who like RVR-PVP are getting somewhere we can call home the PVEs dont like it.Can we help it that nearly all PVE games out there are broken?is it are fault that more and more people want a serious challenge and dont want to spend hour upon hour grinding the same stupid mobs.

If you need to find out how WAR works the there are 100sif not 1000s of vids-popcast and sites deadicated to WAR.You were told on several occations about PVE in WAR and about the Ganking system.

How does an RVR raid dungeon= Ganking lol you really need to do your homework.The point of the dungeon is to fight for the prize lol so yes if i come across you killing the boss i will try my hardest to stop you.

Mythic are kings when it comes to RVR-PVP so i have every faith it will be a great game.Your comment about this game not being set in stone is right but i tell you what is set in stone...WAR=RVR-PVP and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.

Oh yeah i forgot"fucking live with it or participate"

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

Originally posted by Assball69

The devs say that Orc get bigger the stronger they get and Dorfs get longer beards, so what do Goblins get?

Or hell since were at it what about the other races? Doesnt seem like something theyll stick too as the game progresses.  Just seems too variable.

I would like to con someones name and thats it-no class description and no level.I want to train myself to know  what class i am looking at and by there appearance roughtly what level they are.This wont happen but it would be nice to add that sense of danger.

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

I wont Quote you because its will look like a spam attack.Did you not read about the ganking system and about how you get debuffed.Going into a lower zone to gank is like handing your ass to the enemy on a plate,they will kill you.

You  accused me of being an elitist and expect me to sit back and take it.You really have nothing to say as we have covered the Ganking and that  WAR will have PVE of which everyone on these forums is aware of except you.

You should really do your homework before you have a debate,it helps if you know what you are talking about.

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

 

Originally posted by anubisss

WAR is a RVR-PVP-PVE game in that order and no amount of moaning and bitching about why you cant grind the fuck out of an instance time and time again is going to change that..PVE is part of the RVR experience and EVERY quests you do has something to do with the war effort.Even 2 of the Raid instances are RVR just like DARKNESS FALLS in DAOC.So

even while you are trying to take out that top boss me and my boyz can come and take him off ya lol.The best items will come from RVR capitol city raids so fucking live with it or participate.

Paul Barnett has already stated that MYHIC DONT HAVE TO PLZ EVERYONE and WAR is about WAR-RVR plain and simple.When your toon is born into the WARHAMMER world you are born in the middle of a never ending WAR.There will be no opening new instance with the enemy or gathering fuck up resources to help the other-sides WAR effort lol.

 

A Quote from Paul should remind you moaning PVEs that Mythic can do what they want and still have potentially the best game out there catering to people who like a real challenge instead of some fuck up NPC incounter.

Quote="One of the things we had to decide early on is..." Paul muses, "well, our game is Warhammer. It's not farm-hammer. It's not making-T-shirts-hammer. It's not dancing-hammer. It's Warhammer. Therefore, though there are these elements in other games, it's not of much interest to us. And that's difficult, because we have this obsession with 'Don't you have to appeal to all these different game styles?' And in short, no, you don't. Pick a great idea - War - and then realise that idea in the most wondrous way you can.

 WAR IS COMING

 Ghost Squad

Nice, maybe all the gankers can go to WAR and stay out of other games not meant for them.

 

I'm glad the PvP fans finally get a game geared toward them. But the OP's post reminds me of the early community of Vanguard: elitist and hostile

. Whether you realize it or not, WAR will be a niche game if it caters solely to the PvP crowd. Which is fine, nothing wrong with niche games.  But a game filled with people exhibiting the same attitude the OP is here, will more likely run more people off than it brings in.

Just my $.02. Enjoy your game.

I am not anti PVE lol i played UO-EQ1-EQ2-DAOC-WOW-VANGUARD and many other so i my experience with PVE is probably better than yours.My point is that WAR is RVR-PVP-PVE just like DAOC RVR(you should give the 14day trail whirl)and people need to get it into there heads.

Mythic are not going to change anything to appease the masses so you can join the club or go else where for that TOTAL  PVE experience.For me RVR-PVP is the best gaming experience out there and nothing i have ever come across in mmorpg gives me the same pleasure as fighting a losing battle and winning against other LIKE minded players.

Just my £.02.pence(i am english).Yeah i will enjoy the game..thx

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

Originally posted by Hoobley

I don't understand why they don't have an official forum.

I wont comment on your AOC sticky..DAOC did NOT have its own forums and worked very well.Do you really want the same crap you get on that other known mmorpg  forum.

Go over to WHA and try to speak to a dev or create a thread which has direct questions to the devs and it will get lock very quick.This is a good thing as devs are making a game and dont need dumb questions thrown at them by idiot people who want the game to be there creation.

Unlike many other dev teams Mythic devs are always on the forums and then you can ask questions.www.warwrvr.netrvr.netas well.

It was a team member from GOA that confirmed that Europe had the most beta apps with USA and other countries making up the rest.Mythic are not Blizzard and wont put up with the nerf this and "no fare his weapon is bigger than mine crap".

If you ask me Funcom are putting themselves up for the firing line having there own forums.

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

Originally posted by sitheus

Finally, PvE that is PvP related. I'm glad to read the clarification of the PvE gameplay is going to be PvP related because I don't think I can handle anymore go kill 10 rats and collect pig innards for aunt betsy's special liver pie or some bullshit like that. This game will be a major success for us PvP lovers who want a PvP war if WAR delivers on its promises.

WAR--Hunting season draws closer. Get Ready. 

WAR IS COMING

Ghost Squad

WAR is a RVR-PVP-PVE game in that order and no amount of moaning and bitching about why you cant grind the fuck out of an instance time and time again is going to change that..PVE is part of the RVR experience and EVERY quests you do has something to do with the war effort.Even 2 of the Raid instances are RVR just like DARKNESS FALLS in DAOC.So

even while you are trying to take out that top boss me and my boyz can come and take him off ya lol.The best items will come from RVR capitol city raids so fucking live with it or participate.

Paul Barnett has already stated that MYHIC DONT HAVE TO PLZ EVERYONE and WAR is about WAR-RVR plain and simple.When your toon is born into the WARHAMMER world you are born in the middle of a never ending WAR.There will be no opening new instance with the enemy or gathering fuck up resources to help the other-sides WAR effort lol.

A Quote from Paul should remind you moaning PVEs that Mythic can do what they want and still have potentially the best game out there catering to people who like a real challenge instead of some fuck up NPC incounter.

Quote="One of the things we had to decide early on is..." Paul muses, "well, our game is Warhammer. It's not farm-hammer. It's not making-T-shirts-hammer. It's not dancing-hammer. It's Warhammer. Therefore, though there are these elements in other games, it's not of much interest to us. And that's difficult, because we have this obsession with 'Don't you have to appeal to all these different game styles?' And in short, no, you don't. Pick a great idea - War - and then realise that idea in the most wondrous way you can.

 WAR IS COMING

 Ghost Squad