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Originally posted by klapdoor

Originally posted by Elikal

 

GAH, why is it EVERYTIME someone says some critic or praise he is called a troll or a fanboi these days?

EDIT: I am sceptic about screenshots. Any game can pose nice screenshots when they turn graphics to max and seek a halfway nice place.

 

It isn't some random criticism that you spout, it is the most rehashed comment on these boards and all other WAR boards. To me it is only logical that ppl are going to be irritated by another one such post. So either you have never followed anything in regards to WAR, or you did post your OP with the above in mind...

 

Have a look at the recent video's from the 2008 gamesday in Baltimore, these are posted on multiple sites around the internet. Those are made without the high textures, without any lighting and (according to the Mythic reps) with a beta client that is a few months older than the current beta client.

No it may surprise you that the world does NOT circle around WAR. No, I did not follow the last months this board. Tbh, I find WAR interesting in many aspects, but also critical in others. But I tried not to follow it for the last half year or so, so sorry if you had debated this in my absence ad nauseam, heh.

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Originally posted by Zerocyde

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Originally posted by xenogias

Are you insane? Makes WoW look advanced? Maybe instead of watching crappy feeds on youtube you should look up some recent screen shots on there website. Real screenshots. The graphics are nearl on par (detail wise) with LOTRO. Its more flashy than LOTRO but much MUCH more detailed than WoW.
Seriously I dont see how you could have taken the time to learn about WAR's idea's and NOT seen how much better the graphics are....

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GAH, why is it EVERYTIME someone says some critic or praise he is called a troll or a fanboi these days?
EDIT: I am sceptic about screenshots. Any game can pose nice screenshots when they turn graphics to max and seek a halfway nice place. I am basically referring to the underwhelming landscape and cities here.

I dunno, hearing about the ideas in WAR always sounds uber cool, but everytime I see videos... bah, I am so dissappointed. Thats not only the company who did DAoC, it also looks like the same graphics from back then! Maybe I am gonna be surprised big time, but so far all looks ugly and uninspired. I mean, I understand a PVP heavy game cant look like Oblivion, but... that makes even WOW look advanced! I dunno... I really hope it looks better in real. :/

After all the Conan dupe and boredom (aka Age of Instances), I would like to know when they plan to add new customization to VG, if so? Anyone?

First, kicking Ireland, while giving me personal satisfaction, would of course be not the right way. If the Irish have any decency left, they go themselves. Thats what I expect from them.

Second, what the constitution and the contract want is making the EU more than a free trade space. If a nation doesnt want to be part of that, I have no problem, but then I kindly ask them to leave. By themselves. The other way, as many ministers and politicians of the Europeans nations now say (and I hope for once they have the guts to DO what they say!), is the EU is re-founded without those nations who dont ratify the contract. If Ireland wants to go its special way, my blessing, but go. I am sure the majority of the central European nations all see that the same.

And when we come to people votes: I suggest we make people votes in the netto payers, who paid 55 BILLION EURO to Ireland if the people of France, of Dutch, of Belgium, of Austria and of Germany and the other who PAID Ireland in the last 30 years want their money back? I am quite sure we get great majorities for that in these nations. Its like in those movies, when a poor, hungry person asks its rich neighbours "hey I have nothing and you are rich, can you give me some money so I can start my own shop?" get it, and you know, visible or not, there always is a price tag attached. Now if that person, whom you mercifully gave your money to make his own shop, when you just ask for a little favor in return, like, hey sign this new treaty, kicks you in the ass instead - should that man be really surprised when next day he finds his shop burned to ash? Maybe you contemplate that, dear Irish neighbours when you are kicked and your special taxes and treatments are null and void and you fall back to a land of sheep herders you were before we pulled you out of the gutter.

Am I pissed? Sure I am. If I give you money and then you kick me the next opportunity I ask a small favor for the CONSIDERABLE amount of money we gave, I guess I have the RIGHT to be pissed. I know diplomats word this smother, but we Germans ... ya know we are unfortunate not as silver-tongued as our esteemed Neighbours. But unlike others, we say what we think of you.

Well, isnt it wonderful to see how some use democracy as a justification of any kind of rude, foolish or arrogant behavior. Wonderful. Now far be it from me to take them the right to make fools of themselves, but when 480.000 Europeans vote NO, why must the other 495 MILLION Europeans SUFFER and the contract is null and void? How can THIS be democratic?

Now I am FAR from bein a Euro-enthusiast, god forbid, for me it is only a necessary evil in a time of globalization. We can not deal with the problems of globalization by simpy IGNORING it and play by nationality rules of the 19th century. I mean, Ireland is welcome to try, what I DONT accept is, that when Ireland doesnt want to go along, the rest must suffer and be forced to remain in the old contract. It just means a TINY minority of 480.000 Europeans enforce their will over 495 millions! So the only fair and square solution would be if those who are WILLING form a new EU without those who dont want to accept the consitution or contract of Lisbon, problem solved. If any other nation then wants in the New EU, they must sign the constitution first.

YES the EU has plenty bad politician, so have nations. YES there is a lot of cumbersome bureaucracy. YES YES YES. BUT: there is not real alternative! We either develop the European Union ahead or we disband it! Those are the only two alternatives. We cant leave it in 2008+ with a system made decades ago under totally different circumstances, and the EU is the best chance for Europe we HAVE. Sure, in an ideal world we would forge ideal Alliances, but we live in a REAL world with REAL choices, and the choice at had is, do we WANT to be in Europe and develop it further or do we leave it and go? There IS not choice to leave it as it is in the long run. Thats just what this all is about, so if a nation says NO to the contract it says NO to the EU, because it CANT stay as it is in the long run.

I am all AGAINST making the Irish vote again. That would just be hilarious, No is No and so it should be. We other Europeans should respect that and let them go, as apparently the majority of voters only wants in the EU to get they money anyway.

The old system where every nation has one vote, instead of every human PERSON, worked when the EU just had a few members. Now we have 27 and more candidates are just in the process of becoming members, like Croatia. Does any reasonable person REALLY think a Union can WORK if every nation has one vote with so many members? Thats absolutely ridiculous! There will always be a lot things which the national states can decide idependently, and every nation is always free to go, so why be afraid of things that MIGHT someday be but none really brought on the table?

I mean, ok I understand the EU as it is really needs a better system, it is cumbersome bureaucracy, overly complicated structures and lack of democratic control - but you know what THAT was exactly what the constitution was about to improve in the first place! Of all the people who are against the Constitution and the contract, I dont know a single one who READ them, most cant even quote a single paragraph they are against! If all this proves one thing to me, its humans are just not READY for such levels of direct democracy! For instance ALL great decisions in West-Germany after the war were made by politicians AGAINST the opinion of the masses, like joining Nato, west-orientation, liberal economy asf. NONE would have gotten a majority in votes in their time, but ALL were RIGHT and NECESSARY. Humans are just to DUMB for direct democracy, it can only be given to them in portions via representatives, everything else just invites people becoming victim to propaganda and hearsay. As you can see! People's decisions is something for neutreal or tiny states like Swiss or Panama. The great decisions of our time can not be given to catchphrase propagandists.

Is there an overly powerful being taking care of everything? No, I dont have any reason to believe that save maybe to comfort myself - which is ok if someone wants that. I do think there is more than natural science says, tho, something like an energy like the Force, I could imagine something along those lines. (Not with the supernatural uber powers, tho.) If there are higher evolved energetic beings, they sure dont care a lot what happens to us. Apparently.

He sure could use a style advisor, someone who works on his haircut and gives him a more fashionable pair of glasses. Oh and a language trainer. "Oge of Cohnon hos mony closses."

Originally posted by Sunrider

 

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Originally posted by Elikal
Lol, I would have been surprised if it were AYNTHING but KOTRO MMO. I mean, come on, Mass Effect was a nice single play RPG, I really loved it, but the Mass Effect world has WAY too less flesh at the bone to make a MMORPG world. There was just ONE real city, you saw nada about the alien races homeworlds, all planets were copy-paste dungeons besides the few story-driven ones. Good Single player game, but way too thin for a good MMO. And Potter or anything was never realistic. I might be wrong, but all logic goes to a KOTOR MMo, and did so right away.

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WoW was based off of RTS games and books that explained the places that we never saw and the history we could never see...

Oh come on! Sure with time and patience you can make a MMO out of everything, but there is only one logic to make it all so ridiculously secret, and that is another Star Wars MMO. If it were Harry Potter or Mass Effect, why hide? A good implemented SW MMO would be THE real challange for WOW and nothing else. Warcraft had a years old legacy and a huge fanbase, so its nothing like Mass Effect or anything unknown out of the blue. Sure, I cant tell what Bioware is thinking, but its what all probability says.

Lol, I would have been surprised if it were AYNTHING but KOTOR MMO. I mean, come on, Mass Effect was a nice single play RPG, I really loved it, but the Mass Effect world has WAY too less flesh at the bone to make a MMORPG world. There was just ONE real city, you saw nada about the alien races homeworlds, all planets were copy-paste dungeons besides the few story-driven ones. Good Single player game, but way too thin for a good MMO. And Potter or anything was never realistic. I might be wrong, but all logic goes to a KOTOR MMo, and did so right away.

Originally posted by Khuzarrz

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by Kurush

Originally posted by Elikal

I know for our American Neighbours it sure seems of little significance. For us Europeans, it is a vital, decisive question, wether or not to unify Europe to strengthen us for the future. Let me say this clear, by heart I will always be way more German than European, but in my mind it has always been clear to me that Europe has only a future if we are able to create a unified Federation of states, in the long run like the USA. I know, thats not what many Europeans like, in their hearts they cling like to the historically grown nations, like I do. But reason and science all show that we are to unite or to loose our significance in the world.

Ireland, I dont get it... NO other nation has benefitted greater from European Union than they! Billions of Euro went into the once poorest nation of the EU, special contracts, laws, any kind of support. But people are fooled by the most stupid arguments now.

It has already been the same a short time ago, when the Europeans Nations forged a European Constitution, one of the most modern ever made, which would replace the entanglement of bureaucrats with simple and democratic structures, more direct democracy, more transparency. The bad thing is, 90% of all people who voted against the Constitution never read it. They claim all evil to the Union and all good the National states. Then the Constitution was stripped of the ideals and reduced to a contract, which now was under vote of the 27 member nations. So far all had agreed, all but the Irish, those who always had gotten the greatest gain, the most money from the EU. And with what arguments? The EU contract would bring in drugs, prostitution and abortion - appealing to the LOWEST fears. It were only 45% Irish who even WENT to the vote, and now a nation with a mere 4 million inhabitants has over-voted the other 500 million Europeans! Democracy ad absurdum.

The only realistic fear of Ireland was the strengthening of democracy! Currently the EU is lead by Commisars, unknown bureaucrats, free of influence of the EU parliamant, and one Commisar from each of the 27 Nations. All decisions must be accepted by ALL 27 members atm! This principle was ok when the EU only consisted of 6 or 8 members, but with 27 it makes it almost impossible to go ahead, and no decision can be made about anything now! It twists the weight of the actual number of people, when a nation with 4 millions has the same weight as a nation with 80 million people! In any REAL democracy there is one principle: One Man One Vote! The Constitution as now the contract who was in question, would have replaced the Commisars with a real kind of government, directly under the control of an elected Parliament, where one European person is ONE vote, as Democracy SHOULD be. There are so many parts of the Constitution and the contract who would have strengthened democracy and the influence of the people, but most followed whims and prejudices, when it came to one of the most important decision of Europe since the end of the World War II.

I do respect any Nation decides not the be part of the European Union, even if I find it extemely selfish of Ireland only to take the good (our money) and then dont stand for the obligations and responsibilities. Thats no decend behavior. I hope those states willing to ratify the contract, or better the Constitution, will form a new European Union and those who are unwilling are leaving! We Europeans must set a good example to create a modern, democratic Federation at the beginning of the new century, and not loose ourselves in stupid bickering over false rumors and hearsay! This is a shameful day for Ireland. IF you dont want to be in, fine, but then get the heck out of our European Union!

 

We Europeans must set a good example to create a modern, democratic Federation at the beginning of the new century.  Yeah, right.  You're complaining because Ireland's constitution requires any amendment be ratified by a popular vote, including acts that have constitutional strength like treaty modifications.  Damn democracy getting in the way of my democracy.  Kick 'em out.  Let me make some things clear for those Americans here who don't follow this shit.

1.  This is largely an end run around the rejection of the EU Constitution.

2.  The reason the Lisbon Treaty doesn't require as many popular votes as the EU Constitution is because, legally, it's just a modification of existing treaties, rather than a whole new binding document like the EU Constitution.

3.  This was deliberately done to avoid further popular votes, as out of the five countries that held a referendum to determine the fate of the EU Constitution, two rejected it then.  Out of the three that passed it by referendum, one country had a very low voter turnout, and the other two passed it by a very narrow margin.

4.  As a result of this shift in tactics, Ireland is the only country that had a popular vote this time around.

5.  In fact, while the Lisbon Treaty dropped many of the more controversial terms of the EU Constitution, it contains rehashes of many others, just in non-binding language.  It would eventually be made binding if this came to pass.

Now why don't the Irish like it?  Well, if you listen to the OP, who is not Irish and obviously has no idea of their concerns beyond the quatsch he has read in the German papers, it's because they're insular morons.  Here is the actual truth.

1.  France is taking leadership of the EU next.

2.  You know what France loves?  One of the issues that really gets them hard when it comes to EU policy?  Normalization of corporate taxation.  They've pushed hard for it before, and they will push hard for it again.

3.  Guess what country's recent economic growth has been the result of massive corporate investment due to a very low corporate tax rate?  If you guessed Ireland, you win the prize.

4.  Does the treaty contain binding language forcing the Irish to alter their tax code?  No.

5.  Would it eventually lead to that happening in a few years time?  Probably.

Well, those are the answers by the numbers.  Here is a hint, Elikal.  It's not democracy if you discard the results you don't like.  You have a process in place.  Live with the results.

Oh yeah, just another little thing to consider for the Americans who don't care about this shit.  EU governments are already publicly talking about ways to circumvent Ireland's decision.  That's right.  They're coming out and saying they're looking for a legal way to get around this.  They agreed to this setup with their recent treaties, and now that something has happened which they don't like, they will find a way to simply push aside the dissenting party.

1919-1933.  1945-2008.  I guess with only 77 years of democracy, it's not too surprising that Germany isn't quite sure of what the word means.  The Indians learned to accept the bad decisions with the good, and they have about twenty less than you guys.  Maybe you should outsource your governance to them, Elikal?

 

You disqualified EVERYTHING you said with a ridiculous statement like "Germany isn't quite sure what democracy means". All your credit in your other arguments was nullified then. End of debate with you.

 

Humourous comments which should have been taken in jest (perhaps Germany isn't sure what that means either? ;) ) do not, regardless of how badly taken, nullify an otherwise perfect treatise on the current situation in the EU. You cannot circumvent someone telling you what's really going on, even if it's against your own point of view, by pointing out a sentence they wrote that offends you; that's even more childish than writing an offensive statement. Instead, you rise above it, and respond intelligently to the rest of the argument. A response I'm eager to see frankly, because I do not believe your point of view is anything more than ridiculous and ignorant.

You dont get it! If you think that way about EU, FINE, but then dont take our money and GO. I respect that you dont want to be in EU, I just dont respect hypocrisy. If you hate the EU, good, go with god but go. Its just ridiculous to say EU is so bad but stay to take the money anyway.

Originally posted by Enigma

sounds like the OP is upset because Ireland wants the EU to be a true democtratic body of government versus a "toy version"

Did you delete your "liberalism is like HIV" signature to make this statement of your more believable?

First, I respect that a nation votes no, what I do NOT accept is

a) the vote is cast on the minority, since only 45% took part in such a vital decision

b) most anti-EU campaigns were based on totally hilarious fear inducing topics like the contract bring prostitution, abortion and drugs!

c) Ireland took all our money gladly but now that some loyalty is requested they say nay.

Bottom line for me is, you either want in the EU or you leave, Ireland is a free nation, so be free to go. As the old saying goes: dont let the door hit your arse on the way out.

Originally posted by Kurush

Originally posted by Elikal

I know for our American Neighbours it sure seems of little significance. For us Europeans, it is a vital, decisive question, wether or not to unify Europe to strengthen us for the future. Let me say this clear, by heart I will always be way more German than European, but in my mind it has always been clear to me that Europe has only a future if we are able to create a unified Federation of states, in the long run like the USA. I know, thats not what many Europeans like, in their hearts they cling like to the historically grown nations, like I do. But reason and science all show that we are to unite or to loose our significance in the world.

Ireland, I dont get it... NO other nation has benefitted greater from European Union than they! Billions of Euro went into the once poorest nation of the EU, special contracts, laws, any kind of support. But people are fooled by the most stupid arguments now.

It has already been the same a short time ago, when the Europeans Nations forged a European Constitution, one of the most modern ever made, which would replace the entanglement of bureaucrats with simple and democratic structures, more direct democracy, more transparency. The bad thing is, 90% of all people who voted against the Constitution never read it. They claim all evil to the Union and all good the National states. Then the Constitution was stripped of the ideals and reduced to a contract, which now was under vote of the 27 member nations. So far all had agreed, all but the Irish, those who always had gotten the greatest gain, the most money from the EU. And with what arguments? The EU contract would bring in drugs, prostitution and abortion - appealing to the LOWEST fears. It were only 45% Irish who even WENT to the vote, and now a nation with a mere 4 million inhabitants has over-voted the other 500 million Europeans! Democracy ad absurdum.

The only realistic fear of Ireland was the strengthening of democracy! Currently the EU is lead by Commisars, unknown bureaucrats, free of influence of the EU parliamant, and one Commisar from each of the 27 Nations. All decisions must be accepted by ALL 27 members atm! This principle was ok when the EU only consisted of 6 or 8 members, but with 27 it makes it almost impossible to go ahead, and no decision can be made about anything now! It twists the weight of the actual number of people, when a nation with 4 millions has the same weight as a nation with 80 million people! In any REAL democracy there is one principle: One Man One Vote! The Constitution as now the contract who was in question, would have replaced the Commisars with a real kind of government, directly under the control of an elected Parliament, where one European person is ONE vote, as Democracy SHOULD be. There are so many parts of the Constitution and the contract who would have strengthened democracy and the influence of the people, but most followed whims and prejudices, when it came to one of the most important decision of Europe since the end of the World War II.

I do respect any Nation decides not the be part of the European Union, even if I find it extemely selfish of Ireland only to take the good (our money) and then dont stand for the obligations and responsibilities. Thats no decend behavior. I hope those states willing to ratify the contract, or better the Constitution, will form a new European Union and those who are unwilling are leaving! We Europeans must set a good example to create a modern, democratic Federation at the beginning of the new century, and not loose ourselves in stupid bickering over false rumors and hearsay! This is a shameful day for Ireland. IF you dont want to be in, fine, but then get the heck out of our European Union!

 

We Europeans must set a good example to create a modern, democratic Federation at the beginning of the new century.  Yeah, right.  You're complaining because Ireland's constitution requires any amendment be ratified by a popular vote, including acts that have constitutional strength like treaty modifications.  Damn democracy getting in the way of my democracy.  Kick 'em out.  Let me make some things clear for those Americans here who don't follow this shit.

1.  This is largely an end run around the rejection of the EU Constitution.

2.  The reason the Lisbon Treaty doesn't require as many popular votes as the EU Constitution is because, legally, it's just a modification of existing treaties, rather than a whole new binding document like the EU Constitution.

3.  This was deliberately done to avoid further popular votes, as out of the five countries that held a referendum to determine the fate of the EU Constitution, two rejected it then.  Out of the three that passed it by referendum, one country had a very low voter turnout, and the other two passed it by a very narrow margin.

4.  As a result of this shift in tactics, Ireland is the only country that had a popular vote this time around.

5.  In fact, while the Lisbon Treaty dropped many of the more controversial terms of the EU Constitution, it contains rehashes of many others, just in non-binding language.  It would eventually be made binding if this came to pass.

Now why don't the Irish like it?  Well, if you listen to the OP, who is not Irish and obviously has no idea of their concerns beyond the quatsch he has read in the German papers, it's because they're insular morons.  Here is the actual truth.

1.  France is taking leadership of the EU next.

2.  You know what France loves?  One of the issues that really gets them hard when it comes to EU policy?  Normalization of corporate taxation.  They've pushed hard for it before, and they will push hard for it again.

3.  Guess what country's recent economic growth has been the result of massive corporate investment due to a very low corporate tax rate?  If you guessed Ireland, you win the prize.

4.  Does the treaty contain binding language forcing the Irish to alter their tax code?  No.

5.  Would it eventually lead to that happening in a few years time?  Probably.

Well, those are the answers by the numbers.  Here is a hint, Elikal.  It's not democracy if you discard the results you don't like.  You have a process in place.  Live with the results.

Oh yeah, just another little thing to consider for the Americans who don't care about this shit.  EU governments are already publicly talking about ways to circumvent Ireland's decision.  That's right.  They're coming out and saying they're looking for a legal way to get around this.  They agreed to this setup with their recent treaties, and now that something has happened which they don't like, they will find a way to simply push aside the dissenting party.

1919-1933.  1945-2008.  I guess with only 77 years of democracy, it's not too surprising that Germany isn't quite sure of what the word means.  The Indians learned to accept the bad decisions with the good, and they have about twenty less than you guys.  Maybe you should outsource your governance to them, Elikal?

You disqualified EVERYTHING you said with a ridiculous statement like "Germany isn't quite sure what democracy means". All your credit in your other arguments was nullified then. End of debate with you.

Err, that a lot of the gases and liquids we create ARE poisonous is a scientific fact, not a matter of speculation. Global warming is also not a theory which we can believe, it is a fact that can be measured and proven. The probability that the global warming is man made is significantly higher than any other explanation, it is the common sense of a VAST majority of scientists, how can one NOT see it? Its not a matter of believe, its a matter of scientific proof.

I know for our American Neighbours it sure seems of little significance. For us Europeans, it is a vital, decisive question, wether or not to unify Europe to strengthen us for the future. Let me say this clear, by heart I will always be way more German than European, but in my mind it has always been clear to me that Europe has only a future if we are able to create a unified Federation of states, in the long run like the USA. I know, thats not what many Europeans like, in their hearts they cling like to the historically grown nations, like I do. But reason and science all show that we are to unite or to loose our significance in the world.

Ireland, I dont get it... NO other nation has benefitted greater from European Union than they! Billions of Euro went into the once poorest nation of the EU, special contracts, laws, any kind of support. But people are fooled by the most stupid arguments now.

It has already been the same a short time ago, when the Europeans Nations forged a European Constitution, one of the most modern ever made, which would replace the entanglement of bureaucrats with simple and democratic structures, more direct democracy, more transparency. The bad thing is, 90% of all people who voted against the Constitution never read it. They claim all evil to the Union and all good the National states. Then the Constitution was stripped of the ideals and reduced to a contract, which now was under vote of the 27 member nations. So far all had agreed, all but the Irish, those who always had gotten the greatest gain, the most money from the EU. And with what arguments? The EU con