All Posts by Brenelael

Originally posted by UnSub

Originally posted by franke

ijust got a new pc thinking i can play  bf:bad company to find out its not comeing to pc yet now i find out star trek online isnt!! is this true or am i f**ked?

 

Last I heard, STO is coming out on the PS3, the Xbox 360 and the PC. I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptic drops the PS3 development, but it will come out on PC.

This is true. The way the developers are talking they want the PC and XBox versions to release at the same time but if they can't do that the PC version will definitely come first. This will be primarily a PC game with console versions available so all of this discussion is pretty much pointless.

Bren

It really depends on the NDA but most don't want you to discuss it in any way. That includes telling others that you were accepted. You'll want to read the NDA of the game you were accepted into to make sure but if you want to be safe just don't. Oh and by the way... Congrats!!!

Bren

Originally posted by rovo

Sign up for the Darkfall beta.

Naval combat is in. Full loot PvP is in. No safe zones to run to (except racial city guards). Find a crew, craft a ship, and be a bad a$$ pirate all you want.

No instances/zones though. There are underwater/ground caves you can swim/climb to though that are considered dungeons.

 

Edit: about character customization:

You can pick up and train in any skill/spell you want. There are no classes, the game is completly skill based, no levels either.

Yeah, Darkfall is your best bet for everything on your list but if you want to play around with something free in the mean time try Voyage Century Online. It's free and has some of the things on your list but doesn't have multi-player ships. It's a fun little game though if you have some time to kill. I play it casually in between other games or when I just need that Pirate fix, Yarrrr!

Bren

Originally posted by Xrazor

As we watch so many MMO's coming out that are PVP based I can't help wondering why they are.

I have been a gamer since the early 80's and love the MMO concept, yet every MMO I play it will have say 20 servers that are PVE and 1 or 2 that are PVP and those servers are usually on medium or low load.

So why are there so many games being developed for such a small player base?

Math doesn't lie and the numbers are what they are.

I myself like to dabble in PVP, but in know way would that be a long term game...I mean what would an expansion be, just more land area to gank each other on?

Most of the gamers I work with say Warhammer is awesome and then follow it up with but I am bored with it already because it is just player vs player...hmmm

The worst part is I have seen hundreds of posts saying Warhammer is bad because there is very little PVE  :P

When the head guy for Battlefield was asked long ago do you plan on having the next battlefield a large MMO with paid subscriptions, he replied, NO because it would have to be soley player  vs. player focused and you would never be able to hold long term subscriptions with that model...well at least someone used their brains!

Then on top of that I saw on the G4 channel the age grouping of MMO players, the majority is ages 20 to 37, The age grouping of PVPer's was 14 to 18....so why go after the smallest population?

I guess we will never know as we watch them fail one after another....

Your first mistake is your judging PvP by PvE games that added PvP as an afterthought by adding PvP servers. These are about the worst example of PvP that you can get as it is usually totally unrestricted PvP with no rule set and it just becomes a total gank fest. Who the hell would want to play that? A true PvP game is written with PvP at the core of the game play and the rest of the game is written to support it. They also incorporate a PvP ruleset to cut down on out and out ganking/PKing. The Lineage series is staggeringly popular and is a good example of this principal. If you want to see what true MMO PvP is like try one of the many MMOs that were produced around their PvP system. Most of these games use a FFA PvP rule set so there are no "PvP" servers... there is no need as it's a core part of the game itself.

Bren

Originally posted by Betelguez

 Yeah ^^ please edit your first post to prevent further misconception

Already done.

Bren

Ah, OK... All I saw was Tasos's announcement and missed the other post. I always asume the worst when it comes to the internet so I assumed it was a scam by the way Tasos worded the announcement. I guess others did too if Brannoc felt the need to clarify what Tasos meant.

Bren

There is a post in the news section on the Darkfall site about some pre-orders being offered by another website. You can read it here. Aventurine is warning people that they didn't authorize any pre-orders. Just thought I'd give everyone a heads up.

Update: Brannoc later clarified what Tasos meant in the above announcement. You can read that here.

Bren

Originally posted by bongloads

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Blazer6992

  Aparently you haven't seen any footage of Darkfall. Not only is it set in the same time frame as most MMO's currently out there. But it has the worst graphics. I had better graphics on my Atari 2600.

 

trolling and exaggeration aside, Darkfall looks quite a bit better than warhammer and really not that far away from AoC. you can see how much graphical quality was lost in the 17min video by looking at the crispness of the text in the trade window. it's obviously heavily compressed and lost a lot of quality, especially compared to recent screenshots which show the true quality.

 

Javac = Correct.

Blazer has said this same comment numerous times, obviously a lie and obviously just trying to get attention.

Yeah, Blazer fits quite nicely into category 4 of my list in my previous post in this thread. His post history speaks for itself. He jumps on the bandwagon anytime there is a thread with a lot of negative comments in it regardless of whats being discussed. To the point that he contradicts himself quite regularly.

Bren

Originally posted by Blazer6992

  Don't hold your breath, this game has already been cancelled once.

 

It didn't get canceled, the company that was making it folded out from under it. It went directly to Cryptic at that time so even though Cryptic chose to start over so they could use their own engine and development tools the development started again without even a slight pause. Cryptic is a well established company with a proven track record. The chances of this game not being launched under Cryptic are pretty much nil.

Bren

Well the way I see it there are four possible reasons:

1. The "Vaporware" Crowd... These are people that have been crying "Vaporware" for so long that to admit it might be a good game at this point would be admitting defeat. So now they have switched to "It's gonna suck" just so they can save face for as long as possible.
2. The Class Based Linear Cheerleader... These are people who are into the "flavor of the month" theme park MMO and the fact that something different that may be enjoyable is about to release scares the hell out of them. So they attack it out of fear of what it may become.
3. The Anti-PvP Crowd... These people just hate PvP and people that enjoy PvP so they attack the game out of there misplaced hatred for that guy who ganked them all those years ago during there first PvP experience.
4. The Standard Forum Troll... This is someone who sees a game that others are bashing so they jump in because in some warped way they think it makes them seem cool.

I think you'll find everyone who bashes Darkfall fits neatly into one of these four categories.

Bren

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by Brenelael

I play both male and female characters in games. The way I look at it is a MMO character is not an extension of myself but more like me roleplaying a completely different person. Whenever I get the urge to play myself I just go outside and do stuff in the real world. I play games to escape being myself for a little while and sometimes that includes female characters. Now I'm not one of these guys that tries to fool other guys though. If asked I will tell them I'm really a guy as I don't need any boyfriends. I just do it because sometimes it's nice to see how the other side lives once in a while.

 Bren

 

100% agree.  Especially as a theatre minor in college, I never felt I WAS my character.

I can say that playing a female, I get more free gifts, assists, and am not seen as a jerk when I do things selfishly or am insulting (as some of my characters are).  It's also harder to shake off the opposite sex with a simple "no" or "go away".  As a male, I'm expected to be more confident, calm and forgiving in difficult/angry situations.  If there's any flirtatious gesture, "Thanks, and please don't take it personally but I'm not interested in a relationship" is more than sufficient.  It's sad that our real-life gender expectations play over into the game, but I guess many people can't separate themselves from the reality they know.  It's usually easy to spot a guy playing a girl character many times though.  They're way too inviting and have no self-respect for their character's body/appearance.  Men seem not to be able to disengage themselves from their own libido.  I don't know many girls who play guys.  A few do, but they don't appear to find it as enjoyable as playing someone they wish to be. These are all generalizations however, and there are exceptions to the rule surely.

I also seek out the most odd-ball comination of race and class:  Gnome warrior, Hulking Towering Priest, or an Elf that doesn't cry. 

It's funny that you mention how to spot a guy playing a girl. Most guys will pick names/looks that are dead give-a-ways. Names like Bimbolina, BettyBigOnes and the such as well as wearing the most revealing clothing the game has to offer. They are usually the first to ask guys for hand-outs also.

Usually when I play a female toon I pick a well thought out female name as I'm a roleplayer by nature. I also usually pick attractive yet functional clothing/gear for my character and not what is 'sexiest'. When I play I usually play no different from when I play male characters as in I play up the role of the character I'm playing and never ask anyone for anything other than maybe a party here and there. I also usually turn down gifts as that will just encourage them to continue. As a result of the way I play females I've actually had guys not believe me when I've told them I'm really a guy. I have actually had several guys acuse me of just saying I was a guy to get them to stop hitting on me. It can be quite amusing at times.

Bren

Yeah, a good PvP centric sandbox game is usually a roleplayers dream as the world is what you make of it. Also the open PvP atmosphere allows players to directly influence the game world to a degree that just isn't possible in a PvE game. I'm sure that the percentage of roleplayers will be higher in Darkfall than even that poll indicates. People will be roleplaying without even realizing it as they will be interacting with the game world in ways they can't even imagine at this point.

Bren

Originally posted by demalus

Originally posted by Bladin

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by 3on1

Originally posted by Professor78

 Darkfall sure does have a select following, people who understand what a real MMORPG is supposed to be. And not being confined to linear world. freedom of choice if you like, people with imaginations.

Oh, does that make me one of them! 

 

dont you love it how all DF supporters see themselves as the only ones with good taste and knowing what the best mmo is... if the community wasnt so rotten id get excited about the game too ;/

 

 heheh totally agree. :)

 

agree'dx10

I'd never be caught dead playing a sandbox no matter if it was the perfect game for me.  Simply because i don't want to be around the sandbox gamers.

 

There is so much wrong with this lineage of posts.

First of all, I'm neither troll nor fanboy.  I really don't care if this game succeeds or fails, but I would like to point out what is wrong here.  Has it occurred to any of you (who are bordering trolling) that the "community" for Darkfall is so rotten because they constantly interact with people trolling?  By trolling them, you have polarized them to a point where their personalities are exaggerated.

 

As for the final post by Bladin.  I hope you realize how much of what you said is just wrong.  You seriously wouldn't play a sandbox game because of the community?  I don't think you've ever played an MMO before.  Just for comparison, UO and SWG (two sandbox games) had GREAT communities.  SWG wasn't that great of a game, but the community was what kept the game going for a while (until SOE killed it).  Now let's look at non-sandbox games.  I'll take WoW as an example because it is the most successful and is a great representative of the opposing play-style.  The WoW community is generally looked at as pretty childish (Barrens Chat anyone?).  Now, I will admit that I'm being a bit misleading, but I think you get the point.  Communities in sandbox games and non-sandbox games are actually pretty similar.  There are always going to be the elitists, casual players, friendly people, gankers, etc.  You claiming that sandbox games aren't worth playing because of the community just shows that you are trolling and most likely have never played a sandbox game.

A very sensible post. Well done sir. Yes there will be all types in Darkfall just like there are in all other games but one thing I've noticed over the years is that PvP centric games usually have a somewhat more mature community by necessity. If someone acted like some do in WoW they would be ganked continueusly. The threat of being ganked for being a rude little shit usually keeps people in line a little better than in PvE games. This is true whether the game is Sandbox or Linear. This is why I have always mostly preferred PvP games.

Oh and one more thing... If you want to see blind rabid fanboyism at it's finest go and check out Bladin's posts in the WAR forum. They are a real hoot!

Bren

No offence but the Hype-meter here is a joke... always has been a joke.... always will be a joke. No one that has been here for a long time takes it seriously anymore as this type of thing has happened many times in the past. Believe me when I say that it's nothing to get worked up over.

Bren

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by TenSpotting

Originally posted by Mazer14

But the sole fact that this game will be refreshingly different from 90% of the games out there will give it the boost it needs.

That's common sense.

 

How is a Sandbox PvP game based on ideas from 1999 "refreshingly different" ?

Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with Horses and boats floating around.

 

Oh, for

FFS!

NOONE WANT's YOU IN DFO SO GO PLAY WOW WILL YOU?!

This is the infamous 'Darkfall troll' that we've been dealing with for years now in one form or another. Replies like yours just eggs him on so please just ignore this thread and any others he creates as it just encourages him. He has had many names here over the years as he gets banned a lot for starting these trolling flame fests. You guys may know him as Tweedle from the Warcry forums. We have just gotten used to him and can spot him quite easily as he always uses the same old tired arguments.

The news of Beta and the new vid must have thrown him a bit though as this is the first of his alt accounts we've seen here since that time. He's changed his tune a bit as his old 'vaporware' arguments are pretty much null and void now but his style is still the same. Just ignore him completely and he will go away to regroup for a while. I didn't want to reply in this thread but I think it's gone on for long enough.

The only thing that is a huge failure in this thread is Tweedle himself as he has no life but to troll Darkfall forums. You'd think Tasos ran over his dog or something the way he hates this game for no real reason.

Bren

I play both male and female characters in games. The way I look at it is a MMO character is not an extension of myself but more like me roleplaying a completely different person. Whenever I get the urge to play myself I just go outside and do stuff in the real world. I play games to escape being myself for a little while and sometimes that includes female characters. Now I'm not one of these guys that tries to fool other guys though. If asked I will tell them I'm really a guy as I don't need any boyfriends. I just do it because sometimes it's nice to see how the other side lives once in a while.

Bren

Originally posted by onlinenow225

Originally posted by Warpriest02

I am just saying DF has tremendous amounts of potential and success just drooling from it just that no one has heard of this company and indy companies seem to fail, if you got a company like blizzard to back it or publish for it, this game could do just as good as WoW.

 

I am truly sorry.  But any game that has full loot has very little potential to have a big following.  If you consider EvE a sub number of say 150k subs a lot.  Then you are out of your mind.

EVE has more like 250k Subs and for a game from a small indy developer that is a huge success. WoW is the exception not the rule and if you try to compare every game to WoW's sub numbers than every game produced since is a huge failure. We know this isn't true. Indy developers don't need a million or more subs to be a success because they don't spend nearly as much to produce their games as a large mainstream MMO company does. Darkfall will be considered a huge success with as little as 100k-150k subs as this will allow them to show a profit within the first year. Smaller investments require smaller returns.

Bren

Originally posted by Pontifus

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by 3on1

Originally posted by Professor78

 Darkfall sure does have a select following, people who understand what a real MMORPG is supposed to be. And not being confined to linear world. freedom of choice if you like, people with imaginations.

Oh, does that make me one of them! 

 

dont you love it how all DF supporters see themselves as the only ones with good taste and knowing what the best mmo is... if the community wasnt so rotten id get excited about the game too ;/

 

 heheh totally agree. :)

 

 

Yeah, Darkfall seemed like a cool idea until I found out what its community was like. Time to get back to the warrior priest, I guess.

Those that you're talking about actually are a small percentage of the overall community and I agree that they give people a bad impression about what the in-game community will be like. One thing to consider though is that in a game like Darkfall if you don't like someone's attitude the solution is very simple. Kill them and strip them naked and if they come back for more... do it again. Those tough talking forum warriors will change their attitudes in a hurry once they are subjected to repeated gankings for running their mouths in game I'm sure.

As for Blizzard taking over the game...no thanks. Aventurine is only interested in making a fun PvP based game whereas Blizzard would want to turn it into a watered down version that my grandmother and my 4 year old nephew could play without getting their feelings hurt so they could reap maximum profit. Really this is nothing against Blizzard as SOE, Mythic, Turbine, Funcom as well as some other big name developers would do the same thing in todays MMO marketplace.

Bren

Originally posted by Isane

Originally posted by Brenelael

Originally posted by Inzra

unless they are very skilled? Seems to me that with full pvp looting you're gonna have to get a guild to trust for backup?

I'm all for full looting though, it's realistic. And of course gives more of an edge.

However, something else that is realistic, is a limit for how much you can carry, that you could be encumbered and do slower combat with tons of stuff on you.

That should be implemented if not already.

Player weight limits are in the game so any one player is only going to be able to carry a finite amount of stuff including whatever gear they are wearing. As for being a loner it will certainly be more than possible and I think there will be many people 'goin it alone'. This life will most certainly take a smart player that is also well skilled but it will be more than doable. The world is going to be truly massive so there will be plenty of out of the way places a lone wolf would be able to make a way for themselves in the world of Darkfall. This game offers true freedom to play the way you want so don't rule any play-style out just yet.

 

Bren

 

I would love to see the quote as the ones I have seen stated that they were fantasy weight limits i.e. you can carry lots of loot....

Ok... I understand I used a non-common word so let me define it for you guys. All 'finite' means is it's 'not infinite'. You know they are opposites. This means that people wont be able to carry every item ever made in the game all at once. Never did I even hint that inventories are going to be small by any means but by not making them infinite people will fill up and have to sell or bank eventually. As for being encumbered by carrying a lot of stuff that we just don't know. They have actually said very little about what the player weight limits will be and how they will effect your character. We just know we will be able to carry lots of stuff.

Bren